Getting Off

Jessa and Nick talk about the lessons to be learned from the McMartin case, and whether or not those lessons have "stuck" in the minds of experts, prosecutors, and the media.

Jessa and Nick discuss the witness testimony for both the prosecution and defense in the McMartin Preschool trials.

Jessa and Nick finish the pre-trial portion of the McMartin Preschool cases, and end their discussion with the opening statements in the first trial.

Nick and Jessa have some trouble containing their outrage while discussing the initial investigation and arrest of Ray and Peggy Buckey, workers at the McMartin PreSchool in California.

Jessa and Nick talk about some of the special considerations that come into play when interviewing child witnesses.

Nick & Jessa conclude their discussion of the Subway Vigilante case.

Nick and Jessa manage to stay sort of focused to discuss the opening statements of both attorneys and the bulk of the prosecution's case.

After pretty significant tangents, Nick and Jessa talk about the facts of the Bernhard Goetz attempted homicide case.

Yeah, this was pretty lazily titled, mainly because the phrase "Milk: It Does a Body Good" seems a little cold-hearted when applied to a homicide victim...anyway, Nick & Jessa finish up their discussion of the White case and preview their next deep dive.

Jessa and Nick tackle the dueling experts/science that said junk food and depression can make you homicidal.

Jessa & Nick analyze the opening statements in the Daniel White case. Spoiler alert: they aren't impressed.

Nick and Jessa discuss the events surrounding the deaths of Harvey Milk and the then-mayor Moscone.

Nick is back (!!!) and he and Jessa give you this policy episode on 5th and 6th amendment rights as they relate to statements/confessions. We also introduce our next two "deep dive" cases, coverage of which will start on Sunday. Also -- we are just over 94K listeners/downloads. If you could all help us out by rating us through Apple Podcasts, following us on social media (IG, Twitter, and Facebook @gettingoffpod) to help push us over 100K for 2018, we'd be PUMPED.

Jessa and Nick conclude their discussion of R.Kelly.

Nick and Jessa continue with the R. Kelly saga and (finally) get to start talking about the trial.

Nate Otis, the third partner at the island of misfit toys that is Nicholson, Gansner & Otis, S.C. talks about the federal sentencing guidelines and how rarely Jessa is on time to work.

Jessa answers some additional listener questions covering topics like weird laws, how she came to be a defense attorney, and miscellaneous other inquiries.

Jessa and Nick continue to tackle the never-ending timeline of allegations of R.Kelly's troubling behavior with underage girls.

Jessa tackles a few of the listener questions she and Nick have received in a perhaps uncharacteristically somber way, as her day sucked. Hopefully having extra content for holiday travel makes everyone else's day suck a little bit less.

Strap in, everybody. This is about to be the longest timeline EVER. Nick & Jessa start to unpack the wild and *probably* illegal world of R.Kelly. *Disclaimer: R.Kelly has never been convicted of a sex crime. When we say "probably", we aren't basing that on, like, the law and stuff.