The Biggerpockets Real Estate Investing Podcast

Scale smarter with Kathy and Rich’s new book, Scaling Smart! Own real estate? Feeling burnt out? Then you need to listen to this. You've wondered how to scale your real estate portfolio so you can make more money and finally reach financial freedom. And then, at some point, you realize you own rentals and are making money but have zero time. Now, you’re burnt out, wondering where that “financial freedom” went and how you can get back to it. But you’ve got an entire business riding on your back. You can’t stop, so what do you do? Don’t worry—we have the secret.  Kathy and Rich Fettke felt like this a decade ago. Kathy was so stressed that she had zero interest in growing her business any bigger than it was. It was already taking so much out of her, and the stress was only rising. She turned to her husband, Rich, to help coach her into a better position to scale the business instead of blindly growing it. Now, in 2024, Kathy and Rich have amassed a sizable real estate portfolio, run an investor-centered busin