New Rules Podcast

Today we’re joined by our first-ever guest, the legendary Marty Linsky, co-author of Leadership on the Line, one of the most important leadership books we’ve ever read. In this candid conversation, Marty joins Adrian and Bri to unpack the raw, costly, and often misunderstood reality of leading in today’s world. Drawing from decades of experience in politics, academia, and coaching, he shares insights into: Why authority ≠ leadership How to lead without being liked Why real leadership always comes with pushback What Gen Z needs to know before they step up The #1 reason leaders fail: doing it alone This is not a feel-good episode. It’s a necessary one.