Not The Mama

Sometimes the best way to find out that you want to remain childfree is to spend time with children. Former back-up nanny and comedian Liza Treyger joins Auntie Julia to talk about their pasts as child-care providers. They've both been babysitters, camp counselors and of course, aunts so they do have some experience around kids yet have always known they don't want to become mothers. They also chat about the bounds of womanhood and how we need to make space for women who aren't mothers, no matter the reason. And bonus, David Drake produced the episode so the sound is better! Yay!!!