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Joe Mulherin -- aka nothing,nowhere. -- makes striking, visceral music combining impassioned, emo-inspired vocals over trap beats and hazy guitars. We chat with him and his producer JayVee about working with Chris Carrabb and Travis Barker, battling anxiety and depression, being inspired by Juice WRLD, meeting a bear in the Vermont wilderness, and much more.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.