#alternativefacts

Yeah, we can still hardly believe it, but Brand New has the No. 1 album on the Billboard 200, at least until this weekend. So we went all out! First, charts manager Kevin Rutherford gives a behind-the-scenes look at how they sold so many albums and which "Science Fiction" track is already getting rock radio play. Then, music writer Maria Sherman calls in for a expert critical take on growing up emo, why critics are finally getting on board, and what their final shows will be like, if they really are breaking up in 2018.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.