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This week on our journey through The New Pope, usual hosts merritt k and Eric Thurm are joined by Sarah Jones, writer and critic from New York Magazine. This episode has some high-key drama, high-stakes action, and some serious questions about the nature of morality for everyone to chew on. And yes, there’s a Hatsune Miku mention. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices