Getting Off

Jessa and Nick continue their discussion of the mass murder committed by Elliot Rodger in Isla Vista, California, in 2014\.

In this special episode, Nick and Jessa discuss the life, times, and journals of Elliot Rodger, everyone's "favorite" incel.  This episode is proudly sponsored by hims.com -- check the ad out at 24 minutes in for more information. Also, this is special.  We cannot stress that enough.

Jessa and Nick kick off their "legal idiocy" episodes by talking about the beliefs of Incels.

Jessa and Nick are joined by friend of the podcast and head-shrinking extraordinaire, Kate Wallinga from Ignorance Was Bliss (@iwbpodcast) and the newly-started WeToo podcasts.  We talk about the liberty interests associated with emergency detentions, community caretaker roles of police, and forcing medication.  We also get the chance to compare and contrast how mental health emergencies are treated in different parts of the country.  After you're done here, hop over to Kate's feed and listen to Nick and I role play what it would be like to be subject to an emergency detention. (We promise we're acting.)

Jessa and Nick talk about how, for all the hype, there's really no "there there" when it comes to the legal issues Jeff MacDonald raised throughout most of his case.

Jessa and Nick do a crime scene deep dive while discussing the decision of the Article 32 investigation by the military in the MacDonald case.

OK, we admit that this is probably not the most entertaining episode we've ever produced, but there's a helluva timeline to this case and we had to go through it all to set up the rest of the episodes.  We apologize in advance for the number of references to both the 4th circuit and SCOTUS.

Jessa and Nick talk about some of the most common misconceptions about the "court words", criminal justice, and the way the real world works.  Should you talk to that cop even though he didn't Mirandize you? Does it count as bias if you find someone guilty? Do cops have to tell you that they're cops?  What the hell is double jeopardy, anyway? Find out by listening. This episode is proudly sponsored by Hello Fresh.  Check out our ad at 24:00 minutes to get the skinny on healthy, easy-to-cook meals. Books/Podcasts mentioned: -Courtroom 302 -Everybody Pays -In the Dark, Season 2 -Operation Greylord -Greylord

Nick and Jessa finish discussing the Slender Man cases, and speak with Atty. Tony Cotton, who represented Morgan Geyser.  Please note: the audio quality may not be outstanding here for the interview portion because it was recorded via cell phone.

Nick and Jessa get paranormal on your asses and discuss the urban myth of Slender Man and the competency and juvenile jurisdiction issues surrounding the cases of Morgan Geyser and Anissa Weier.

Jessa and Nick talk about juvenile justice, waiver into adult court, age of consent, and statutes of limitations.

More on John Wayne and Lorena Bobbitt.  This time with 30% less penis jokes and 30% more legal analysis about temporary insanity (!!), self-defense, and other acts. Oh, and John Wayne Bobbitt runs off to join the circus.  We aren't kidding. This episode is proudly sponsored by Robinhood -- an app that makes investing easy!  Check the ad out around 30 minutes in for a special promo code.

Jessa and Nick attempted to choose a case that would provide for moments of levity because things have been a little bleak around the GO headquarters.  Apparently, our idea of "levity" involves mayhem, rape, and mutilation.  So there's that.

Nick and Jessa talk reporter's privilege, doctor/patient privilege, and what might be up next for the Menendez brothers with journalist and author Robert Rand. This is the conclusion to the two-part interview we did. Check out Episode 124 for the first part. You can buy Robert's book, The Menendez Murders: The Shocking Untold Story of the Menendez Family and the Killings that Stunned the Nation in print, ebook, and audiobook form. Here's a link to purchase from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Menendez-Murders-Shocking-Killings-Stunned/dp/1946885266

Jessa and Nick are extremely excited to have the opportunity to talk to crime journalist and author Robert Rand about his recent book release on the Menendez brothers trials. Robert generously spends time talking about the role of the press in criminal courts and gives us a behind-the-scenes look at what happens when covering a high profile criminal trial. We talk pro-prosecution bias, Dominick Dunne, and much, much more. Robert's book, The Menendez Murders: The Shocking Untold Story of the Menendez Family and the Killings that Stunned the Nation is available in hard copy, ebook, and audiobook format at all major brick and mortar bookstores as well as digitally. Buy it on amazon by following this link: https://www.amazon.com/Menendez-Murders-Shocking-Killings-Stunned/dp/1946885266\. We hope you enjoy these special episodes as much as we did.

Nick kind of fades into the distance as Jessa and special guest star Aaron Nelson have meltdowns about how ineffective the cross-examination of Yanez was in the trial, as well as how the jury instructions likely played a massive role in the result of the trial. This episode is proudly sponsored by Hello Fresh. Check out our ad for a special promo code to save yourself some cash while getting healthy!

The GOTeam and special guest star Aaron Nelson of Nelson Defense Group continue to be confounded by the events of the trial regarding the shooting of Philando Castile.

Jessa, Nick, and special guest Aaron discuss pretrial rulings and some thoughts on the prosecutorial and defense strategies in the trial over the death of Philando Castille.  This episode is brought to you by forhims.com -- your one stop shop for all things men's health/wellness!

Nick and Jessa are joined by friend of the podcast and uber-talented defense attorney Aaron Nelson to discuss the officer-involved shooting of Philando Castile.

Jessa and Nick discuss the trial of Marissa Alexander, as well as the appeal that ultimately led to a re-sentencing for time served.  There's also some rogue jokes about jackets, and a bit of a tangent about mandatory minimums for certain gun crimes in the state of Florida. This episode is proudly sponsored by Hello Fresh.  If you've used Hello Fresh in the past with us, please pay special attention to the promo code and offer because they're giving loyal customers some additional discount opportunities!