Getting Off

We just can't get out of this "stand your ground" rabbit hole.  Jessa and Nick outline a case that was basically contemporaneous to the Zimmerman trial--the case of Marissa Alexander.

Jessa and Nick do their best to explain how the verdict was reached in this case by taking a close look at the jury instructions and how the facts would be applied to them.  They also talk about their personal conclusions about the case and Florida's Stand Your Ground/Self Defense laws. This episode is proudly sponsored by both Songfinch and Care/of.  Check out our promos in this episode. Both sponsors have extremely cool products.

Jessa and Nick discuss the prosecution's case presentation in the controversial George Zimmerman trial.

Jessa and Nick start to discuss the facts of the shooting of Trayvon Martin and subsequent arrest of George Zimmerman. Today's podcast is proudly sponsored by Hello Fresh!

Jessa and Nick discuss self-defense law and the various expansions thereupon, like castle doctrine and "stand your ground" doctrine.

Jessa and Nick talk about the aftermath of the Till trial, the 2004 reopening of the Till case, and what's coming next on the podcast in terms of examining the intersection of racism and the criminal justice system. We've got TWO advertisers tonight, folks!  That's right, both www.songfinch.com AND www.forhims.com care about us, supporting us, and providing YOU with kick ass services.  Check our info out in this episode.

Jessa and Nick break down the defense's case presentation in the trial of Roy Bryant and J.W. Milam.

Nick and Jessa break down the prosecution's case in the trial of Roy Bryant and J.W. Milam.  This episode is proudly sponsored by Care/Of.  Check out the ad around 45 minutes in for details and a promo. The book Nick mentions in the episode is "The Lynching of Emmett Till: A Documentary Narrative", which was edited by Christopher Metress.

Jessa and Nick give a sort of historical and cultural preamble to their decision to talk about the Emmett Till case, as well as the timeline and a description about what is known regarding Emmett's disappearance and murder. Promo for Status Pending at the end of the episode!

In this seemingly never-ending episode, Jessa and Nick dive deeeeeeeep into the the defense brief filed on behalf of Michelle Carter.  For a recitation of the case facts, see episodes 72 & 73.  This episode is very law heavy, and, in our opinion, really not all that funny, so we're sorry about that. This episode is proudly sponsored by the Parcast podcast Unexplained Mysteries.  Check out their ad starting around 54 minutes in.

...these are the show notes, for anyone who was wondering.  Jessa and Nick finish up their discussion of Warren Jeffs, whom even Jessa can't help but call names.  That said, she calls him names AND stands up for the constitution.  **Warning** this episode is a little tough, both factually and legally.

Jessa and Nick are back with a professional ass theme song (thank you, Jenn Beaupre!!!) and allllllll the child rape. It's a rough one, guys. Seriously. Jessa did her level best to avoid making terrible comments about religion (and probably failed.) There are also jokes about being on the lam, and a mini-interview with podcaster Jim Perry. UPDATE: in our zeal to play the fabulous theme song we have, we cut the first minute of jabbering in which we explain that we can’t do the Dee Dee Blanchard case because the codefendant boyfriend of Gypsy isn’t set to go to trial until November of 2018\. That’s what you missed. PS—Justin, is it Some Other Bitch Did It??? PPS—Nope, Jessa figured it out. SOME OTHER BIRD DID IT!!!

Jessa had five inappropriate jokes for the title of this episode but refrained from using them.  Instead, we give you a very bland titled episode to a very complicated topic -- whether sexual offenders who have served their sentences should be subject to civil commitment after they conclude their time based on their mental disorder status and likelihood to re-offend.

Happy Birthday, America!  In this special 4th of July episode, we talk about the first heavily publicized murder trial in America -- the death of Elma Sands and the subsequent trial of her maybe-lover, Levi Weeks.  We compare and contrast how things went back then and what issues are still present in the world of American criminal defense today. This episode is proudly sponsored by forhims.com.  Check out our ad starting at 35:45 for details and a special promo code!

OK.  We took down our terrible audio.  We re-capped our previous episode so that those of you who could not suffer through the R. Kelly porno cathedral recordings had them.  If you want to skip ahead to the new stuff, start at 30 minutes and 30 seconds.  The rest of the (rather lengthy) episode is new to all! Also, we have special edition tumblers out available!  Check out WilderSideDesigns (all one word) on etsy to order your (customizable) Getting Off Podcast tumbler, coffee tumbler, or wine glass. Wilder Side Designs is a friend of the show and an extremely talented small business.  Go support them, and, by extension, us, by buying a tumbler today!

Jessa and Nick talk about prosecutorial discretion, immunity, and ethics.  Referenced in this episode: SCR Wisconsin, John Pfaff's book Locked In.

Jessa and Nick discuss the legal issues that came up in both Horn and Perry's trials, as well as the civil litigation that followed.

This is a listener request!  Jessa and Nick talk about the investigation into the deaths of Trevor and Mildred Horn, as well as Trevor's night nurse, Janice Saunders, and how Mildred's ex-husband Lawrence (LT) Horn and a mysterious Detroit resident named James Perry come to be arrested for the crimes.

Nick and Jessa talk about Matthew Charles, as well as the probation and parole system in the United States.  They drink and ramble and get outraged. They also promise they'll do a real deep dive case starting this weekend and stop with the bummer policy episodes (at least temporarily.)  Consider it their overcorrection for the coverage of Jodi Arias. Bonus points if you got the mid-90s hip hop reference to Warren G in the title.

Jessa and Nick discuss the drug overdose death of basketball player Len Bias and how his death led to the passing of laws that allow prosecutors to charge shared drug users with homicide in the event of an overdose.  They also talk about some aspects of the "war on drugs" more generally.  Basically, it's a policy nerd's episode.