Getting Off

Jessa and Nick get topical and discuss the recent recall of the judge that sentenced Brock Turner.  This was supposed to be a quickie but then turned into a marathon session.  From us, to you.  Enjoy!

***IMPORTANT*** This episode is a collaboration with Heather Wright, host of the Nature v. Narcissism podcast.  Part 1 of the crossover is running on Nature v. Narcissism's feed.  Heather breaks down the biographical history of Ted Bundy and his crimes while Jessa and Nick chime in with color commentary of sorts.  (Jessa also tells yet another embarrassing story about her misspent youth, as she is apparently want to do in collaborative episodes.)  After you've hit that up, come back here and check out our coverage specifically of the Ted Bundy trial for the Chi Omega homicides, complete with explanations about how someone represents themselves and a fun sidebar about in-court marriage proposals.  Not to be missed!

Nick & Jessa are BACK and handling the end of the Jodi Arias case.  Honestly, guys, this sort of exhausted us.  This episode is brought to you by one of our sponsors, Hims.  Visit them at forhims.com.

Nick and Jessa cover (in a way less assholish fashion) the pretrial rulings in the Arias case, as well as some of the challenges defense counsel faced in defending her.

Jessa and Nick are reunited after Jessa's vacation and are pretty flippant and basically assholes while reciting the facts of the Jodi Arias case. ***WARNING: This particular episode contains sexually graphic content, violent content, and some majorly sarcastic and un-PC commentary about religion.  If that sort of thing offends you, this is probably not the episode for you.

This is the conclusion to our interview with Hazel Thornton, Juror #9 on the first Erik Menendez trial.  One of the many reasons that Nick and Jessa enjoy doing this podcast is to change minds about aspects of the criminal justice system.  We hope that this episode, as well as Part 1, have helped squarely dispel the myth that juries are composed of "12 people too stupid to get out of jury duty", and instead demonstrate the commitment and sacrifice serving on a jury requires of our fellow citizens.

Nick and Jessa are extremely excited to offer the first of two episodes that involve an unedited interview of Hazel Thornton.  Hazel was Juror #9 on the first trial of Erik Menendez.  Hazel generously spent almost four hours talking to us about all things Menendez.  Myths! Juror in-fighting! Her take on Dominic Dunne and Dr. Oziel! How the Law and Order miniseries stacked up to reality, and much, much more.

Jessa and Nick conclude their discussion of the Robert Blake trial.  Warning: there are a LOT of sidebars in this one.  War stories, thoughts on tangential items, more trashing of Dominic Dunne...the usual Getting Off fare. This episode is proudly sponsored by Hello Fresh.  Check out our ad at around 35:45, and listen for a promo code so that you can save $30 on your first order!

Jessa and Nick talk about the "low rent" homicide of Bonnie Lee Bakley and defendant Robert Blake.

Jessa and Nick talk about the two Cosby criminal trials, as well as changes in counsel made between trial one and trial two.  This episode is proudly sponsored by forhims.com, and a promo code can be found at around 35:45 if you are interested in checking them out!

Nick and Jessa discuss the civil litigation surrounding the Cosby case dating back to 2004, and the pre-trial litigation leading up to the trials.

We don't even know.  Hot takes! Tex McIver! More ranting about Wisconsin Bar awards! Cosby! Golden State! Whatever, wherever...it's here.

Nick and Jessa conclude their discussion of the Menendez brothers double homicide trials.

Continuing our April theme of family violence, we tackle a "biggie" in this and the next episode -- the Menendez Brothers, dirty psychologists, mistresses, parricide, and Jessa's massive girl-crush on defense attorney Leslie Abramson all come up.

In this very special, "emergent" episode of Getting Off, Jessa and Nate talk about recent events regarding the Wisconsin Attorney General and the State Bar, as well as how the plea bargaining process works.  Please listen.  This is an issue very dear to us.

Jessa and Nick conclude the conversation of Wisconsin's Battered Woman defense as seen through the lens of the Head case.  Jessa also wanders off on multiple tangents about, well....more or less everything.

After reflecting on listener feedback regarding sex work, we thought it was important to have both sides of this debate have a voice.  Thus, Jessa invited special guest Chelsea Cox of Deliberations, who supports legalization, to debate the merits of legalizing sex work.  Nick is still out of the country, so this one's all ladies.

Jessa and Nick stick close to home, talking about a Wisconsin homicide case from 1998 that greatly expanded our state's view of the "reasonable person" standard in evaluating claims of perfect and imperfect self-defense, specifically with regard to Battered Woman defense.  This episode covers the facts of the case through the initial trial, and the second episode will discuss the post-conviction rulings and how they changed our legal landscape.

If you don't listen to Can We Cult, you're going to have to start if you want to know what the hell we're talking about in this one.  The first part of this discussion can be found on the Can We Cult feed -- it was released Thursday, April 12th, 2018.  Nick & Jessa pop in over there to add color commentary while the lovely Allie and Meagan explain what was up with a teenage vampire cult in the 1990s.  Then, in this episode, Jessa & Nick talk about the quirky procedural posture of the cult's ringleader, Rod Ferrell.  Ferrell is now up for re-sentencing a THIRD time post-plea because of recent rulings in the United States Supreme Court regarding sentencing practices for juveniles. We had a lot of fun recording these two episodes (again, go to the Can We Cult feed for the first part) and hope you enjoy them!

Nick and Jessa are joined by one of their paralegals, Kat, who helps them pick a contest winner and tells some rogue stories about office life here.