Wallbuilders Live! With David Barton & Rick Green

When should America step in abroad—and when should we hold the line? We open with Nigeria and the persecution of Christians, unpacking the hard tradeoffs between humanitarian outrage and constitutional guardrails. We weigh the tools that can move regimes without war—credible threats, sanctions, aid leverage, quiet diplomacy—and the times when defending American lives, ships, and commerce must take priority. Using the Barbary pirates and the French Quasi-War as guides, we lay out a practical test for “American interest” that avoids isolationism without drifting into endless entanglements.From there, we zoom out to the role of government itself. Individuals and churches are called to forgive; civil authority is tasked with justice. That distinction matters for foreign policy and domestic order alike. We connect it to the Constitution’s enumerated powers and the Founders’ warnings about entangling alliances, showing how a clear mission for government keeps compassion meaningful and justice consistent.We also tac