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Highlights from the conversation:Sometimes, I think people forget that what happens to us in the workplace really has far-reaching consequencesI don't believe in safe spaces. I believe in brave spaces where people can be brave and say what it is that they've been through.[On the Constitutional Court] I worked in an environment where there was a concerted effort to live up to South Africa's highest ideals. It wasn't perfect, but just the striving of it made me have the highest standards.Arriving to the office and seeing the culture where the judges know everyone by name, you know, not just the law clerks, but the cleaning ladies, the security guards, and all the support staff. You know, a culture where the judges themselves refer to each other as brother and sister, which is very much an African cultureThe court has the constitution, this document or this clearly articulated purpose, a dent that they're trying to make in the world, that they have to go after. And I think by having that so clear, everybody who