Illumination Podcast With Nick And Kisma

This week's episode has a special guest: Cathy Heller. Cathy Heller hosts the podcast Don’t Keep Your Day Job, which has 8 million downloads and features conversations with creative entrepreneurs like actress Jenna Fischer, blogger Seth Godin, and more. She’s a phenomenal coach and she’s sparking a movement for every soul to add their gift to the world. Hosts: Nick and KISMA Special Guest: Cathy Heller 01:59 - Let’s Get to Know Cathy You're very real.You're incredibly authentic and there's a rawness about you. I feel like it comes from your background as a musician and Nick and I both have backgrounds as musicians. So I would love to kick off this podcast with a little bit about that. And then of course you've got a book to talk about and other things, your podcasts, but would you share the story behind your being a musician and what it means to your life right now? KISMA 02:51 - Our Wounds Guide Us You I am raw maybe that connects to being an artist. I think that at the end of the day, most likely if somebod