Dirty White Belt Radio

Not one but TWO legends of jiujitsu are on the show this week. Our featured interview guest is Pedro Sauer, the legendary 8th Degree Red/Black Belt Instructor under Helio Gracie and Rickson Gracie. We cover a lot of ground, including: the first time he met Helio Gracie; his time living in Rickson Gracie's garage with Luis "Limao" Heredia, and how he wound up in Utah and now Virginia; How his famous fight with Mr. Utah came to be (and he tells us at least one detail about that fight that I'd never heard before); The story of the log that Helio Gracie used to practice #chokes on, that he got from his friend Bauru, that now resides at Pedro Sauer HQ -- and the one story about Bauru he can tell in public; advice on keys to longevity in jiujitsu, whether he advises people to compete, and what true self-defense means, including how to protect your joints; why the black belt means something more than what you can do on the mat, but how you can make a difference in the community as well. He also tells us who the most