Saturday Extra - Separate Stories Podcast

Russia has done what many in Europe couldn’t believe would happen – it has invaded Ukraine, on the false pretext of genocide in the eastern Donbas region. Vladimir Putin says he’s only aiming to demilitarise the country, not occupy it. But does the scale of the invasion indicate otherwise? Defence and Russia expert Keir Giles from Chatham House joins us and says he's not surprised by developments, because US and UK intelligence indicated this would happen.