Dave & Gunnar Show

In this episode, Carolyn Ford (https://dgshow.org/guests/cford) welcomes back Dave Egts, Field CTO at MuleSoft, to Tech Transforms (https://techtransforms.fireside.fm/) to explore the transformative power of AI in 2025. They dive into Dave’s top five AI predictions, with a special focus on the rise of agentic AI—AI that doesn’t just suggest, but acts. Dave explains the difference between generative AI and intelligent agents, why integration via APIs is the key to agent success, and how government agencies can prepare now. Listeners will learn: What “large action models” (LAMs) are, and how they differ from large language models How AI agents are already reducing friction in Salesforce and Slack Why AI success depends on access to high-quality, actionable data What’s driving the shift toward small language models and what that means for secure, on-device AI Why “agent-washing” is the new “AI-washing”—and how to spot it What makes a truly impactful agent vs. a glorified chatbot Dave’s favorite sci-fi robot, a m

This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about cockroaches with backpacks, hydrogels with Pong, and hackers with digital license plates! Paperlike Screen Protector (https://paperlike.com/products/paperlike-for-ipad?srsltid=AfmBOoooevn7RZDUrPzKuw-ygeeWFUKtaliQwDsODZP8X-v6qPUoPXn9) Cyborg cockroach armies can now be mass-produced at a rate of one every 68 seconds (https://www.techspot.com/news/105987-cyborg-cockroach-armies-can-now-mass-produced-rate.html) Hydrogels can learn to play Pong (https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/08/hydrogels-can-learn-to-play-pong/) Lavarand (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavarand) Hackers Can Jailbreak Digital License Plates to Make Others Pay Their Tolls and Tickets (https://www.wired.com/story/digital-license-plate-jailbreak-hack/) How a 'NULL' License Plate Landed One Hacker in Ticket Hell (https://www.wired.com/story/null-license-plate-landed-one-hacker-ticket-hell/) XKCD Exploits of a Mom (https://xkcd.com/3

Grape Job! This week, Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about fake faces, fake video calls, fake parking lots, fake bagpipes, fake lollipops, and fake gas leaks! Kobo Clara Color (https://us.kobobooks.com/products/kobo-clara-colour) Libby (https://www.overdrive.com/apps/libby) Paperlike Screen Protector (https://paperlike.com/products/paperlike-for-ipad) and Bumper Case (https://paperlike.com/products/paperlike-bumper-case) Kindle Scribe (https://www.amazon.com/Kindle-reading-writing-journaling-sketching/dp/B0BQPS527F) Pilgrim at Tinker Creek (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilgrim_at_Tinker_Creek) Good-Bye to All That (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good-Bye_to_All_That) Kindle Unlimited (https://www.amazon.com/Browse-Kindle-Unlimited-Books/b?ie=UTF8&node=9069934011) Ghost Fleet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Fleet_(novel)) D&G This Week in Mask Technology: Full-Face Masks to Frustrate Identification (https://www.schneier.com/blog/archi

This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about restaurants that don’t exist, restaurants with robots, and robots with speed cameras and thermite! Gunar prepares for a half marathon with Runna (https://www.runna.com/) Gunnar is awarded the rank of Legendary (https://www.charlieintel.com/call-of-duty-mobile/cod-mobile-ranks-129671/) on Call of Duty Mobile (https://www.callofduty.com/mobile) Dave enjoyed The Penguin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Penguin_(TV_series)) The '#1 restaurant in Austin' doesn't exist (https://www.usermag.co/p/the-1-restaurant-in-austin-doesnt) Do Robots Love Their Customers? Automated Restaurants Face Human Issues. (http://dnyuz.com/2024/08/13/do-robots-love-their-customers-automated-restaurants-face-human-issues) Related/prophetic? Kramer’s DIY pizza business plan (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwh0Xruf0yQ) Acquired IKEA Episode (https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/ikea) Speaking of restaurants: Chinese Pizza Hut

This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about thinking caps, solar caps, and transparent bodies! Gunnar enjoyed The Magnetic Fields (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Magnetic_Fields)! Lauren bought a new car! Dave bought a new TV! Gunnar enjoyed Call of Duty Mobile (https://www.callofduty.com/mobile)! EcoFlow Power Hat (https://us.ecoflow.com/products/solar-power-hat) Rendering Skin Transparent Using The Food Dye Tartrazine (https://hackaday.com/2024/09/07/rendering-skin-transparent-using-the-food-dye-tartrazine/) See also: Slim Goodbody (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slim_Goodbody) Make It Stick (https://www.makeitstick.com/) Writing advice: Keep the bear, and just the bear (https://danwin.com/2013/05/writing-advice-keep-the-bear-and-just-the-bear/) Cutting Room Floor A Chip Off the Old Rug: Ken Shirriff Finds a Pentium Processor Hiding in a Navajo Weaving (https://www.hackster.io/news/a-chip-off-the-old-rug-ken-shirriff-finds-a-pentiu

This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk with Steven Pousty (https://dgshow.org/guests/spousty) about GIS, open source theology, and AI! Compiling reliable gazetteers with BS 7666 from episode 261 (https://dgshow.org/261) The European Patroleum Survey Group (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Association_of_Oil_%26_Gas_Producers#European_Petroleum_Survey_Group) what3words (https://what3words.com/) Google Plus Codes (https://maps.google.com/pluscodes/) Cardinal direction (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_direction) 5 of the World’s Most Interesting Directional Systems (https://www.mentalfloss.com/posts/directional-systems-around-the-world) OpenStreetMap (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap) Overture Maps Foundation (https://overturemaps.org/) Prithvi WxC (https://huggingface.co/Prithvi-WxC): NASA and IBM’s AI Foundation Model for Weather and Climate Universal basic income (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_ba

This week, NotebookLM (https://notebooklm.google/) talks about the Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) Show Episode 263! Main Themes The Psychology of Influence and Manipulation: This episode explores how external factors, from large-scale events to seemingly harmless media, can shape our thoughts and actions. This theme is explored through discussions on propaganda, deep fakes, and the power of questioning techniques. The Blurring Lines Between Reality and Technology: The episode delves into the increasing sophistication of AI and its implications, particularly with the advent of deep fake technology. It also touches on the philosophical questions raised by advanced AI, questioning what it means to be human in a world where technology can mimic us so flawlessly. Cybersecurity and Vulnerability in the Digital Age: The episode highlights the vulnerability of individuals and systems to cyber threats, using the example of an Airbnb property being used for crypto

This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about electricity theft, identity theft, and coaching! Imagine Dragons (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imagine_Dragons) in Houston at the Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavillion (https://www.woodlandscenter.org/events/2024/imagine-dragons) Psychological Warfare (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10105969-psychological-warfare) by Paul M.A. Linebarger Nuclear War: A Scenario (https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/748264/nuclear-war-by-annie-jacobsen/) by Annie Jacobsen War Day (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31348386-war-day/) by Whitley Strieber and James W. Kunetka RHEL AI (https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/linux-platforms/enterprise-linux/ai) released! Cryptominers made $100,000 from mining at an Airbnb for three weeks — the guests ran up a $1,500 electricity bill (https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/cryptomining/cryptominers-made-100000-dollars-from-mining-at-an-airbnb-for-three-weeks)

This week, Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about electric vehicle skeuomorphism, people influencing AIs, AIs influencing people, and people influencing AIs influencing people! Gunnar espouses the virtues of the Leatherman Micra (https://www.leatherman.com/micra-20.html) Dave enjoys D-Day Conneaut (https://www.ddayohio.us/)! An annual WWII reenactment on the beaches of Lake Erie (https://www.wosu.org/2023-10-12/an-annual-wwii-reenactment-on-the-beaches-of-lake-erie) Ohio Renaissance Festival (https://renfestival.com/) D&G This Week in Skeuomorphism: Here’s what the electric Dodge Charger’s “Fratzonic exhaust” sounds like (https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/08/heres-what-the-electric-dodge-chargers-fratzonic-exhaust-sounds-like/) See also: Motorcycle exhaust mod? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5IKthNYhVY) People game AIs via game theory (http://arstechnica.com/ai/2024/08/people-act-differently-when-they-think-theyre-training-an-ai) Our Human C

This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about raising standards on masks and raising our standards on compiling reliable gazetteers with BS 7666! Gunnar explores the neighborhoood with iNaturalist (https://www.inaturalist.org/) and Seek (https://www.inaturalist.org/seek) Black-bellied whistling duck (https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Black-bellied_Whistling-Duck/overview) Dave saw 7 bands over 7 days The Hives (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hives) Hate to Say I Told You So (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz1Jwyxd4tE) Foo Fighters (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_Fighters) Steve Miller Band (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Miller_Band) (80!) Journey (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_(band)) Def Leppard (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Def_Leppard) (64!) Loverboy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loverboy) Sammy Hagar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammy_Hagar) (76!) Yuengling brewery tour (https://www.yuengling.com/amer

This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about another fake university, Brain Organoids as a Service (BOaaS?), and policing with drones! Apple Watch (https://www.apple.com/watch/) Oura Ring (https://ouraring.com/) Xiaomi Smart Band 8 (https://www.mi.com/global/product/xiaomi-smart-band-8/) Appeals court rules students can sue U.S. over fake university set up by ICE (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/appeals-court-rules-students-can-sue-us-fake-university-set-ice-rcna160295) University of Farmington (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Farmington) University of Farmington on the Internet Archive Wayback Machine (https://web.archive.org/web/20190118150802/https://universityoffarmington.edu/) World's first bioprocessor uses 16 human brain organoids for ‘a million times less power’ consumption than a digital chip (https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/worlds-first-bioprocessor-uses-16-human-brain-organoids-for-a-million-times-less-power-

This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about the upsides and downsides of superalignment! Apple Care (https://www.apple.com/support/products/) After World (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/176443640-after-world) by Debbie Urbanski Ex-OpenAI employee speaks out about why he was fired: 'I ruffled some feathers' (https://www.businessinsider.com/former-openai-researcher-leopold-aschenbrenner-interview-firing-2024-6) SITUATIONAL AWARENESS: The Decade Ahead (https://situational-awareness.ai/) by Leopold Aschenbrenner Microsoft's new lightweight AI rivals GPT-3.5 — it's learning from children's books and fits on phones (https://www.laptopmag.com/software/microsofts-new-lightweight-ai-rivals-gpt-35-its-learning-from-childrens-books-and-fits-on-phones) Introducing Superalignment (https://openai.com/index/introducing-superalignment/) Phalanx Close-In Weapon System (CIWS) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phalanx_CIWS) Butlerian Jihad (https://en.wikipedia.org/wi

This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about audible trackers, coworker avatars, and local deals on slightly used toenail clippers! Dave recommends: Hawaii! Zippy’s (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zippy%27s)! Spam musubi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_musubi)! Gunnar recommends: Japan! Tokyo! Kyoto! Macaque monkeys (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macaque)! Nara Park deer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nara_Park#Deer)! Google Translate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Translate)! The creepy sound of online trackers (https://axbom.com/the-creepy-sound-of-online-trackers/) Check the videos here (https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/tracker-beeper/)! A Wave of AI Tools Is Set to Transform Work Meetings (https://www.wired.com/story/taking-baby-steps-toward-the-ai-meeting-singularity/) AI hallucinates software packages and devs download them – even if potentially poisoned with malware (https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/28/ai_bots_hallucinate_software_

This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about AI for fake law firms, AI for politicians, drones for electric vehicles, and paid memberships for Chuck E. Cheese! Resident Alien (TV series) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Alien_(TV_series)) Multi-Level Summarization in Instapaper (https://bthdonohue.com/2024/04/24/multilevel-summarization-instapaper.html) Pixel Buds Pro (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_Buds#Pixel_Buds_Pro) A ‘Law Firm’ of AI Generated Lawyers Is Sending Fake Threats as an SEO Scam (https://www.404media.co/a-law-firm-of-ai-generated-lawyers-is-sending-fake-threats-as-an-seo-scam/) Commonwealth Legal Services (https://www.commonwealth-team.net/) Liberals accuse Conservatives of using AI for amendments to jobs bill as votes loom (https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/sustainable-jobs-bill-amendments-1.7171414) EVs With Built-In Camera Drones Have Already Landed in China (https://www.wired.com/story/evs-with-built-in-camera-drones-have

This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about printer cartridges with viruses, cryptography with psychedelics, and drinking with baskets Fallout (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_(American_TV_series)) Dave endorses Pixel Buds Pro (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_Buds#Pixel_Buds_Pro) Dave can’t endorse Google Gemini Advanced (https://gemini.google.com/advanced) Laudato Si (https://www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/encyclicals/documents/papa-francesco_20150524_enciclica-laudato-si.html), paragraph 107 HP CEO evokes James Bond-style hack via ink cartridges (https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/01/hp-ceo-blocking-third-party-ink-from-printers-fights-viruses/) These 'Psychedelic Cryptography' Videos Have Hidden Messages Designed to Be Seen While Tripping (https://www.vice.com/en/article/3akkd9/psychedelic-cryptography-videos-have-hidden-messages-designed-to-be-seen-while-tripping) Too Drunk to Drive? Forget Ubers, Take a Basket Man Instead (https

This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about ethical AI, AI operating systems, employees parroting their bosses, and parrots parroting parrots Bloons TD 6 (https://ninjakiwi.com/Games/Mobile/Bloons-TD-6.html) Google ~~Bard~~ Gemini ~~Ultimate~~ Advanced (https://gemini.google.com/) Meet Goody-2, the AI too ethical to discuss literally anything (https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/09/meet-goody-2-the-ai-too-ethical-to-discuss-literally-anything/) MemGPT (https://memgpt.ai/) MemGPT: Towards LLMs as Operating System (https://research.memgpt.ai/) MemGPT Explained! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQmZmFERmrg) Managerial ventriloquism: Own Your Words to Gain Authority (https://sloanreview.mit.edu/article/own-your-words-to-gain-authority/) D&G This Week in What Could Possibly Go Wrong: Zoo Hopes Plan to Introduce Famous Cursing Parrots to Larger Flock Doesn't Backfire (https://gizmodo.com/zoo-hopes-plan-to-introduce-famous-cursing-parrots-to-l-1851194097) Cutting

This week, Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about exotic input devices, growing new life forms with built-in memories, AI ruining everything, and having déjà vu about jamais vu. Bali (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bali) ’A mouse for your mouth’: New device allows users to scroll with their tongues (https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/tongue-controlled-touchscreens-hit-market-year-rcna133270) Brains Are Not Required When It Comes to Thinking and Solving Problems—Simple Cells Can Do It (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/brains-are-not-required-when-it-comes-to-thinking-and-solving-problems-simple-cells-can-do-it/) Search X for "goes against OpenAI's" (https://twitter.com/search?q=%22goes%20against%20OpenAI%27s%22&src=typed_query&f=live) See in particular (https://twitter.com/UrgentResurgent/status/1744860782687297715) Lazy use of AI leads to Amazon products called “I cannot fulfill that request” (https://arstechnica.com/ai/2024/01/lazy-use-of-ai-

This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about poisoned USB drives, poisoned web searches, poisoned AI models, and a guy pretending to be a mannequin Gunnar says the Oura Ring (https://ouraring.com/) is delightful Dave achieves Platinum Pro (https://exploreamerican.com/platinumprostatus/)? Dave becomes an author using AI (https://www.youtube.com/@TheNerdyNovelist)? Diabolic Drive Stealthily Injects Keyboard Strokes While Being a Functional USB Drive (https://www.hackster.io/news/diabolic-drive-stealthily-injects-keyboard-strokes-while-being-a-functional-usb-drive-cd255a46db2d) Chatbot Hallucinations Are Poisoning Web Search (https://www.wired.com/story/fast-forward-chatbot-hallucinations-are-poisoning-web-search/) Related: Google’s AI assistant can now read your emails, plan trips, “double-check” answers (https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/09/googles-ai-assistant-can-now-read-your-emails-plan-trips-double-check-answers/) Related: Spotify

This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) and Gunnar (https://dgshow.org/hosts/gunnar) talk about notetaking, IP taking, and great deals on used surveillance vans! Gunnar endorses: DND Beyond (https://www.dndbeyond.com/intro) Goodnotes (https://www.goodnotes.com/) and the virtues of the pen Dave endorses: Kindle Scribe (https://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Scribe-the-first-Kindle-for-reading-writing-journaling-and-sketching/dp/B09BS26B8B) Julia (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77980762-julia) H/T Dwight Chamberlain: The Ben and Marc Show (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ben-marc-show/id1713388101) RISC-V technology emerges as battleground in US-China tech war (https://www.reuters.com/technology/us-china-tech-war-risc-v-chip-technology-emerges-new-battleground-2023-10-06/) 211. Regulating AI by Executive Order is the Real AI Risk (https://hardcoresoftware.learningbyshipping.com/p/211-regulating-ai-by-executive-order) Hardfork interview w/Sam Altman (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/20/podcasts/hard-

This week Dave (https://dgshow.org/hosts/dave) joins Dynatrace’s Carolyn Ford (https://www.linkedin.com/in/carolyn-ford2020) on the Tech Transforms Podcast (https://tech-transforms.captivate.fm/) about what's scaring the public sector most and how Salesforce is utilizing - and securing - AI to improve customer experience with their Einstein Trust Layer. Additionally, Carolyn and Dave dive into the spooky worlds of brain cell chips, mind-reading AI, and more! Key Topics [02:17] Starting the Dave & Gunnar Show [04:14] Dave's Role At Salesforce [05:18] What's Scaring the Public Sector Most? [10:22] Ways Agencies are Attracting Talent [13:56] How Agencies Are Handling Legacy Systems [15:45] What MuleSoft Does & Generative AI's Role [22:44] Salesforce's Einstein Trust Layer [29:21] PoisonGPT [36:07] Brain Organoids & Other Spooky, Ethically Questionable Experiments [42:15] Tech Talk Questions: Halloween Edition Quotable Quotes Considerations for the Public Sector While Using AI: "As you're going on your AI journey