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Hudson Pacific Properties, Inc. (NYSE: HPP) is preparing to welcome tenants back into its buildings by implementing new standard operating procedures across its portfolio, touching on everything from enhanced cleaning to increased signage and physical distancing policies.Speaking on the Nareit REIT Report podcast, Natalie Teear, vice president of sustainability and social impact at Hudson Pacific, said the REIT is rolling out a “four-C’s” approach that encompasses communication, confidence, convenience, and cooperation. Hudson Pacific is also launching a mobile app at all of its multi-tenant properties in order to share the most up to date information with tenants on a real-time basis.

The REIT industry’s focus on the needs and concerns of its tenants will become increasingly important as a result of the coronavirus crisis, according to Gil Menna, co-chair of the REITs and Real Estate M&A practice at Goodwin.Speaking on the Nareit REIT Report podcast, Menna said one of the ways that REITs can be opportunistic in the current environment is by focusing on unique ways to deal with tenancy concerns that evolve from the pandemic.“Trying to attract tenants back to [real estate] space, using the space in a way that’s novel and useful to tenants to addresses their needs and concerns—and helping them psychologically become productive again—will be an important part of the opportunity set available to REITs,” Menna said.

Nareit Senior Economist Calvin Schnure said that while the April jobs report was “clearly a shock to the economy,” the bulk of job losses were confined to a few sectors facing complete shutdowns.In the May 11 edition of the REIT Report, Schnure noted that the April report showed a record decline in employment while the unemployment rate jumped to 14.7%, the highest level since the Great Depression. However, the data are “less alarming than we might have expected,“ Schnure said. He noted that 60% of the job losses were in sectors such as restaurants, doctors’ offices, and retail—which may be in a position to rehire at a later date.

The retail real estate sector is leading the way in terms of preparing for a post-COVID 19 return to more normal business operations, according to Nareit Senior Economist Calvin Schnure.Speaking May 4 on the Nareit REIT Report, Schnure pointed to the various new safety measures that Simon Property Group, Inc. (NYSE: SPG) has implemented in order to reopen some of its malls.“The retail sector and the shopping malls are not isolated, they’re just the first part of our economy that’s going to be dealing with a post-COVID world. They are pioneering the way so that people can interact safely together,” Schnure said.

A new small business loan program recently launched by Kite Realty Group Trust (NYSE: KRG) is trying to give its tenants a “bridge to the other side” during the current economic uncertainty, said Kite Realty chairman and CEO John Kite.In the May 1 edition of the REIT Report, Kite said the company is “on the front lines of this thing as it relates to the small business community.” The KRG Small Business Loan program will provide up to $5 million in total assistance and allow Kite’s small business tenants to request a loan amount of up to three months of operating expenses.Kite said the idea to assist the REIT’s tenants, who were having difficulty accessing the Paycheck Protection Plan, “gained steam very quickly inside the company.”The reaction to the program so far has been positive. “We fully anticipate looking to lend out as much as we can in this program,” Kite said.

The REIT industry’s “heavy footprint” in non-traditional asset classes gives it a clear advantage as the world adapts to new ways of living in response to the coronavirus crisis, said Scott Crowe, Chief Investment Strategist at CenterSquare Investment Management.Speaking April 30 on the Nareit REIT Report podcast, Crowe said the crisis “ushers in a whole new paradigm of what real estate really is,” especially the idea of core versus non-core real estate. “The reality is that the way we live our lives is going to evolve significantly,” he noted.One of the advantages that the REIT industry has is its “heavy footprint” in non-traditional asset classes, such as data centers and towers, Crowe said. He noted that the industry has “a much higher proportion of winners than losers as it relates to what the post-COVID-19 real estate new normal may look like.”

While REIT share prices drifted lower in the past week, conditions appear to have settled somewhat compared to the large swings seen in the early weeks of the coronavirus crisis, said Nareit Senior Economist Calvin Schnure.Speaking April 27 on the Nareit REIT Report podcast, Schnure pointed to single digit moves in the past two weeks. One possible reason for the more restrained movement is the approach of first quarter earnings, he noted: “There could be a lot of investors who are in a wait-and-see mode.”Looking at real estate markets overall, Schnure highlighted the release of CoStar data showing demand weakened considerably across all major property types, despite social distancing going into effect only in the closing weeks of the quarter. Net growth of demand for office space was at its lowest level since 2010, and net demand for retail space fell due to store closures, the first decline since 2009.

Bill Bayless, CEO of American Campus Communities, Inc. (NYSE: ACC), said the REIT is helping its student residents weather coronavirus-related disruption by ensuring they have a home during the crisis, regardless of their ability to pay rent on a timely basis.Speaking April 23 on the Nareit REIT Report, Bayless said the company’s Resident Hardship Program ensures students can complete their online education in an academically oriented environment without facing late fees, online payment fees, financially-related evictions, or any negative impact to their credit reports if they and their families are facing financial disruption.To date, 2,787 residents have applied under the program out of more than 100,000 residents, Bayless said. In April, the company abated $1.6 million in rent and has already abated $400,000 in rent for May.Bayless said American Campus is “very pleased and optimistic about the return to campus in the fall by students, even if classes are going to be held online.” To date, the REIT’s portfo

A Nareit survey of April rent collection across the REIT industry points to a strong performance by industrial, multifamily, and office REITs.Nareit Executive Vice President for Research and Investor Outreach John Worth told the REIT Report April 22 that industrial REITs saw 99% of typical rents received in April. The survey was conducted between April 8-15.Multifamily REITs collected 93.5% of typical April rents, while office REITs collected 89.3% of typical April rents. Worth noted that there had been uncertainty as to how office REITs would fare, but “the fact that nearly 90% of rents have been paid does reflect the strong credit quality of REIT tenants.”Health care REITs collected 85.7% of typical April rents, while shopping centers collected 46.2%.

On the 50th annual Earth Day celebration, Nareit Senior Vice President for ESG Issues Fulya Kocak said the social aspect of ESG is likely to see greater focus as a result of the coronavirus crisis.Speaking on the Nareit REIT Report podcast, Kocak said that while attention to social matters was already gaining a lot of interest before the crisis, “after we return to our new normal we are going to see more focus on health and wellness as well as flexibility and adaptation of the workforce to different ways of getting things done.”Kocak also commented on the upcoming Nareit ESG annual report, which will highlight the increased reporting underway by REITs. “There has been good progress made on the transparency aspects of ESG,” she said.

Kimco Realty Corp. CEO Conor Flynn said the REIT’s large national retail tenants need to pay their rent so that financial assistance can get to where it is needed most—small shop retailers.In an April 15 REIT Report interview, Flynn—who was recently diagnosed with COVID-19 and suffered mild symptoms—outlined the REIT’s efforts to help its ‘mom and pop’ tenants, including rent deferral and its new Tenant Assistance Program (TAP).Flynn said TAP’s aim is to help its smaller tenants “bridge to the other side of this” by offering free legal services to help them navigate federal and statewide assistance programs. So far, over 1,700 tenants have taken advantage of TAP and Kimco continues to try and get more tenants to actively use it. “Time is not on the side of our small shop retailers,” he said.

After steep share price declines across the REIT industry in recent weeks, a more moderating pattern appears to have set in, according to Nareit senior economist Calvin Schnure.In an April 13 REIT Report podcast interview, Schnure noted that REITs are down 13% to 15% this year, representing a significant discount. However, “the markets appear to have settled into a middle range. You’re no longer seeing the very sharp declines that we saw in March and they’re looking forward to the period when this virus is more under control and the economy can get back to work—commercial real estate included.”Schnure noted that REITs made gains in the prior week, and outpaced the S&P 500, as the sector was boosted by Federal Reserve policy provisions to support real estate if tenants fail to make rent payments.Schnure also commented that a range of factors are influencing investor sentiment, and those factors all reflect different time frames. For instance, public health news is determined by the measures taken several w

Ric Campo, chairman and CEO of Camden Property Trust (NYSE: CPT), said that while April rent collections have slowed somewhat in the past week, “generally we feel pretty good about where we are” in terms of residents’ ability and willingness to pay rent.In an April 9 REIT Report interview, Campo discussed the REIT’s efforts to help its residents weather the crisis, including the establishment of a $5 million tenant relief grant. He explained that Camden wanted to help fill the gap between when a resident might have lost a job and the receipt of federal benefits.“Business should focus on being a real partner in the community… it’s just the right thing to do to help people when times are tough,” Campo said. He noted that there was more demand for the grant than expected, with the entire $5 million amount allocated in about 16 minutes. Checks were sent out to residents within 24 hours of their grant applications being approved, he noted.

The lodging sector was one of the first industries to feel the economic brunt of the coronavirus crisis, and it will likely be one of the last to benefit from an eventual upturn, Pebblebrook Hotel Trust (NYSE: PEB) Chairman and CEO Jon Bortz said.Speaking April 9 on the REIT Report podcast, Bortz said about half of the hotels across the industry have now closed completely, with millions of employees furloughed. “We think it’s going to be a very slow recovery,” he said.By the end of March, operations at all but eight of Pebblebrook’s 54 hotels had been suspended and over 7,500 employees furloughed. Meanwhile, costs have been cut at the corporate level, with executives volunteering to either reduce or forego their compensation. Pebblebrook has cut back on capital projects and drawn down its line of credit completely. “We’re sitting on a little over $700 million that should allow us, with a fairly significant cash burn, to get through the better part of next year,” Bortz said.Bortz, who is 2020 chair of the Amer

Nareit Senior Economist Calvin Schnure said in an April 6 REIT Report podcast interview that uncertainty surrounding the coronavirus and its impact on the economy and markets will remain high, certainly through April and likely into May.Schnure also noted that while REITs and broader stock indices are at a deep discount compared to pre-crisis levels, they are up from lows reached several weeks ago.Investors seem to be anticipating that the policy actions taken so far, notably the $2 trillion fiscal stimulus as well as Federal Reserve measures to support financial markets and make sure they continue to function smoothly, are going to help a lot of households and businesses, Schnure said. “Investors seem to anticipate these measures are going to buffer the economy and the markets from some of the worst scenarios,” he noted.

The April 2 edition of the REIT Report podcast featured Walt Rakowich on the topic of leadership during a time of crisis. Rakowich became CEO of ProLogis at the height of the economic downturn in 2008 and restored the company’s finances, enabling it to merge with AMB Property Corp. in 2011 to create Prologis, Inc.Rakowich noted that while every crisis is different, “how and why we lead is actually quite consistent.”During a crisis, a leader needs to understand that people are watching and listening even more intently than when things are going well. “How you deal with situations, how you communicate, what you say, how you treat people—all of those things matter,” he said.

In the March 30 edition of the REIT Report podcast, Nareit Senior Economist Calvin Schnure highlighted the latest developments in how the coronavirus crisis is impacting the economy and commercial real estate.Schnure noted that public health officials are indicating that “we need to prepare for a long haul,” which in turn is increasingly impacting cash flows for businesses and wages and incomes for workers.The first hard data on the magnitude of the effect came last week as initial jobless claims soared to a record 3.3 million, but “even this number understates the true impact,” Schnure said. The unemployment rate is likely to rise from 3.5% to 7.0% and is probably heading to 10% or higher in coming weeks, he added. “This is a major challenge for us in the months ahead.”

CBRE Chief Global Economist and Head of Americas Research Richard Barkham and CBRE’s Head of Occupier Research, Americas, Julie Whelan, joined the REIT Report on March 27 to talk about the economy, commercial real estate, and the impact of the coronavirus pandemic.Barkham described the economic impact as “brutal in the short term,” with GDP in the United States likely to contract by 6.3% in the first quarter and 20% in the second quarter. If new COVID-19 infections begin to fall by mid-to-late April, and lockdown situations start to ease from mid-May, “we’re looking to an improved second half and a very strong 2021,” he said.Fundamentals in the real estate sector were strong heading into the crisis, Whelan observed, as she pointed to solid occupancy levels and a disciplined approach to construction. “All of that has set us up to weather the storm that we’re in quite well,” she said.

In the latest edition of the REIT Report podcast, Nareit Senior Economist Calvin Schnure said the ultimate economic and financial impact of COVID-19 will be unclear until there is more progress on the public health front. Authorities, meanwhile, are acting quickly to support the economy, including the resurrection of the Federal Reserve’s crisis programs, Schnure noted.“The most important impact on the economy is the short-term cash flow problems for businesses that rely on face-to-face interactions with the public…it is encouraging that authorities are acting quickly to support the economy through this period,” Schnure said.

In the latest edition of the Nareit REIT Report podcast, Chris Caton, global head of strategy and analytics at Prologis, Inc., discussed the impact of COVID-19 on the warehouse and logistics industry.The current uncertainty is likely to be a headwind for the economy and all forms of real estate, logistics real estate included, Caton said.Caton pointed out that logistics real estate has benefited from historic low vacancy rates and strong demand and disciplined supply. Potential customers who have had a difficult time securing space up until now may see that situation change, he said.Investors, meanwhile, are likely to recognize “the relative beneficial attributes of logistics real estate in terms of the long-term demand drivers against other categories that have more uncertainty,” Caton said.