Score: The Podcast

In our third double-guest episode in a row, Kenny and Robert begin the show chatting with rockstar songwriter, musician and composer, Isabella Summers (Little Fires Everywhere, Panic, Physical) aka “The Machine” from Florence + The Machine. Isa reveals that she always wanted to work in film and even scored and directed her own horror films as a kid, explains how she jumped head first into film scoring and continues to learn as she goes and breaks down the differences between scoring with a partner and writing solo. Subscribe to MORE SCORE on Patreon for year-round interviews, film music talk and even cool merch: http://Patreon.com/MoreScore Later, Oscar-winning composer Elliot Goldenthal (Frida, Batman Forever, Heat, Interview with the Vampire, Alien 3, Pet Sematary, Demolition Man and so many more) joins the show to discuss growing up in Brooklyn and absorbing multiple styles of music, his working relationship with late director Joel Schumacher, how Jim Carrey’s Riddler influenced his themes for Batman Forev

Robert Kraft examines the life and career of one of the unsung heroes of every film score — the contractor! Peter Rotter is considered one of the pre-eminent orchestral contractors working today, and his job is to book musicians on a mass scale to record the composer's work. In this chat, Robert and Peter discuss what to look for in players, recording in different cities, and bouncing back after Covid.

In another loaded double-guest episode, Kenny and Robert begin the show chatting with mega-talent Isobel Waller-Bridge, composer of Emma (2020), Fleabag, Vita & Virginia and more! Isobel shares stories of early collaborations writing songs with her sister Phoebe, why she likes to sneak "easter egg" sounds and lyrics into her scores and why she loves to tackle musical projects outside of her wheelhouse. Subscribe to MORE SCORE on Patreon for year-round interviews, film music talk and even cool merch: http://Patreon.com/MoreScore Later, Emmy and Grammy-winning composer Mark Isham (HBO's The Nevers, Godfather of Harlem, Judas and the Black Messiah, Bill & Ted Face the Music, Crash (2004), A River Runs Through It, Once Upon a Time and so many more) joins the show sharing his unbelievable tale of how he got his first film scoring gig that involved a lot of luck, explains how scoring for TV has drastically changed over the course of his career, reveals why he got fired from the 1995 film Waterworld and what

Robert Kraft and Carol Kuswanto interview legendary film music mixer Alan Meyerson on his illustrious career, how he weaves his own creativity into music written by composers, the stories of working with Hans Zimmer, how the pandemic changed his job, and what's in store for the future of film music.

In this jam-packed double-guest episode, Kenny and Robert begin the show chatting with Serj Tankian, Grammy-winning singer/songwriter, rockstar frontman of System of a Down and rising star film composer. Serj shares why he made the decision to jump into film composing, recalls the exact moment he decided to make music his career and what Robert Kraft told him the first time they met in 2008 that ended up coming true, reveals when he fell in love with the orchestra, and explains why making another System of a Down album isn't off the table. Subscribe to MORE SCORE on Patreon for year-round interviews, film music talk and even cool merch: http://Patreon.com/MoreScore Later, the Emmy-nominated composer duo of Saunder Jurriaans & Danny Bensi join the show sharing stories of starting a band together in New York and how and why they transitioned into film music, working with Jason Bateman and the unique way they got the gig for Ozark, what makes them select a documentary project and why they love taking on a pr

The System of a Down frontman and vocalist Serj Tankian reveals he's been listening to Score: The Podcast on his daily walks, and talks about his successes and ambitions doing more film composing. (He also gives a special shout-out to Kenny's lady Elva—a huge SOAD fan—at the end!)

Kenny and Robert being the show discussing the return of live concerts, specifically film music, as the nation begins to return to normal post-pandemic. The Hollywood Bowl announced their summer lineup which includes the return of John Williams' "Maestro at the Movies" show featuring David Newman as conductor and a live-to-picture performance of Ludwig Goransson's Oscar-winning score of Black Panther. Subscribe to MORE SCORE on Patreon for year-round interviews, film music talk and even cool merch: http://Patreon.com/MoreScore Later, Oscar-nominated composer David Newman joins the show discussing his family legacy in film music, why he always had his heart set on conducting the orchestra, what it was like growing up around film music legends like John Williams and ultimately being a session player on iconic scores like ET and teaming up with Steven Spielberg on the highly anticipated remake of West Side Story. This episode is presented by Spitfire Audio Follow us on Twitter @ScoreThePodcast or send Kenny and

Kenny Holmes and Matt Schrader interview the dynamic duo behind Netflix's COBRA KAI. We discuss their beginnings as interns with composer Christophe Beck and working on FROZEN and ANT-MAN, how they took their first jobs after, and volunteering to score YouTube's KARATE KID spinoff before they knew anything about it. How to score a campy 80s retro style drama? Zach and Leo have the answers! Plus, their awesome new collaboration with MONDO on a beautiful vinyl box set, and why Zach and Leo organized it to be its own experience. Link to vinyl LP pre-order: https://mondoshop.com/collections/all/products/cobra-kai-original-soundtrack-3xlp NOTE: Due to a problem with our Riverside.fm recording system, the audio mix for this interview varies from our normal mix. We apologize! This is a good one to play out loud instead of on headphones if you're sensitive to differences in volume.

Matt Schrader, Kenny Holmes and Robert Kraft give their three film scores that influenced their lives, before reviewing More Score Patrons favorites! Lots of editing in this one, including some original clips from the Matt Schrader and Robert Kraft archives!

Kenny and Robert being the show discussing how Alan Menken and Howard Ashman helped launch Disney into its new generation with The Little Mermaid. Robert reflects on joining the film as a music producer, unaware of how pivotal this film would be for the future of music in animation. Then, the guys check Score: The Mailbox and answer a question about when and why a composer should get an agent. Subscribe to MORE SCORE on Patreon for year-round interviews, film music talk and even cool merch: http://Patreon.com/MoreScore Later, iconic composer and songwriter Alan Menken joins the show sharing how we went from writing for musicals on stage to transitioning into Hollywood with his longtime partner, the late Howard Ashman. Menken discusses developing some of his most famous songs and score from The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Pocahantas, Hercules, Aladdin and more. This episode is presented by Spitfire Audio Follow us on Twitter @ScoreThePodcast or send Kenny and Robert your questions for the mailbox at

Robert and Kenny begin this Season Premiere (now with video!) with special guest Matt Schrader, discussing our new Patreon exclusive show MORE SCORE, The Oscars' rough ending, Composer Carol's new album "Smile" and much more. Later, composer Tom Holkenborg aka Junkie XL joins the show to share the unique story of getting fired from Justice League, only to be brought back years later to release the Snyder Cut. Tom details why he started from scratch on the four-hour score instead of continuing where he left off and the incredible challenges the pandemic brought along the way. This episode is presented by Spitfire Audio Follow us on Twitter @ScoreThePodcast or send Kenny and Robert your questions for the mailbox at ScoreTheMailbox@epicleff.com Hosts: Robert Kraft & Kenny Holmes Executive Producer: Matt Schrader Coordinator: Carol Kuswanto © 2021 Epicleff Media

Robert Kraft remembers the exact moment he discovered he wanted to be a songwriter. A summer camp, bookstore and several bands later, his music was interrupted by an inebriated harmonica player ... turns out that was (then still unknown) Bruce Willis! The inspirations, professional setbacks, and compounding decisions (from "Kermit Unpigged" to "The Little Mermaid" and "Titanic") that led Robert to the captain chair of Fox Music, and then Score: A Film Music Documentary!

You know him from Score: The Podcast, but what are the forces that forged Kenny Holmes? Turns out, it involves home break-ins, pro wrestling and a news photographer career all over the western US. How did that lead Kenny to Score: A Film Music Documentary? Matt Schrader and Kenny Holmes guide this introductory episode of More Score on Patreon! (And a special welcome to our new members!)

Robert and Kenny begin this Season Finale with special guest, Matt Schrader discussing the trailer release of The Batman, Travis Scott & Ludwig Göransson's chart-topping single release for TENET, Hans Zimmer's new cue for WW84 and checking Score: The Mailbox. Plus, the team reflects on their favorite moments of this season of the show. Later, 3x Oscar-winning composer Howard Shore joins sharing stories of his iconic work on The Lord of the Rings trilogy and why he couldn't turn the project down, why the maestro spends so much time finding the proper venue for recording the orchestra, the tricky task of underscoring Robin Williams in Mrs. Doubtfire and why he had to write his own version of the "Happy Birthday" song for Big, which later got cut from the film. This episode is presented by Spitfire Audio. Follow us on Twitter @ScoreThePodcast or send Kenny and Robert your questions for the mailbox at ScoreTheMailbox@epicleff.com. Hosts: Robert Kraft & Kenny Holmes Executive Producer: Matt Schrader C

Robert and Kenny begin the show with special guest, Matt Schrader discussing the season finale release of Blockbuster and checking Score: The Mailbox, with questions about composer compensation, live-to-picture film music concerts and how to present music to a director. Later, Emmy-nominated composer Blake Neely joins the show to share how he overcame the early doubters, the excitement of scoring superhero crossover episodes like Arrow and The Flash, why his relationship with Tom Hanks and Gary Goetzman is all about trust, the secret to scoring the tension in Greyhound and advice on preparing aspiring composers for rejection. This episode is presented by Spitfire Audio. Follow us on Twitter @ScoreThePodcast or send Kenny and Robert your questions for the mailbox at ScoreTheMailbox@epicleff.com. Hosts: Robert Kraft & Kenny Holmes Executive Producer: Matt Schrader Coordinator: Carol Kuswanto © 2020 Epicleff Media

Robert and Kenny begin the show answering questions from Score: The Mailbox about why album versions of scores sometimes differ from the film version, the use of diegetic music in film and if there is a common starting point for writing a score. Then, Emmy-nominated composer Max Richter joins to discuss his brilliant artist career, including his new album ‘Voices,’ why director Ari Folman called out of the blue demanding he score Waltz with Bashir, his use of laments in Taboo and why he took real space travel data and converted it into music for Ad Astra. This episode is presented by Spitfire Audio. Follow us on Twitter @ScoreThePodcast, or send Kenny and Robert your questions for the mailbox at ScoreTheMailbox@epicleff.com. Hosts: Robert Kraft & Kenny Holmes Executive Producer: Matt Schrader Coordinator: Carol Kuswanto © 2020 Epicleff Media

In this special Theme Song Throwback, longtime WWE composer Jim Johnston breaks down his process for writing entrance themes for some of the most iconic characters in sports entertainment. Jim reveals how John Williams' themes for Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker inspired his approach to good guys and bad guys, his experience writing songs with rock bands like Motorhead and P.O.D. and why he only attended one Wrestlemania in his 32 year run with the business. This episode is presented by Spitfire Audio. Follow us on Twitter @ScoreThePodcast, or send Kenny and Robert your questions for the mailbox at ScoreTheMailbox@epicleff.com. Hosts: Robert Kraft & Kenny Holmes Executive Producer: Matt Schrader Coordinator: Carol Kuswanto © 2020 Epicleff Media

Kenny and Robert begin the show with a special “Theme Song Throwback” segment joined by longtime WWE composer Jim Johnston. The maestro of the squared circle reveals his secrets for writing the most iconic entrance themes of professional wrestling’s top superstars including The Undertaker, Stone Cold Steve Austin and Goldust. Then, Oscar and Grammy-winning composer Ludwig Goransson joins the show sharing what surprised him about Christopher Nolan while recording the score for his upcoming blockbuster film Tenet, his mesmerizing first trip to Jon Favreau’s office when meeting about writing his now Emmy-nominated score for The Mandalorian, how a song on Community led to a collaboration with Childish Gambino that won the 2019 grammy for record of the year and how he heard his music played by an orchestra for the first time at age seventeen. This episode is presented by Spitfire Audio. Follow us on Twitter @ScoreThePodcast, or send Kenny and Robert your questions for the mailbox at ScoreTheMailbox@epicleff.com.

Kenny and Robert begin the show discussing the 2020 Emmy nominations, the updated theatrical rollout plan for Christopher Nolan’s Tenet, composer Alan Menken achieving EGOT status with a Daytime Emmy win and checking Score: The Mailbox with a question about why all film scores aren’t released. Then, Oscar and Golden Globe-winning composer Alexandre Desplat joins the show to discuss his new film with Wes Anderson, The French Dispatch, his transition from French cinema to Hollywood films and how the scoring process is different, writing songs for Guillermo Del Toro’s upcoming live-action Pinocchio, how he lost his favorite pair of glasses when first meeting John Williams and the advice Ennio Morricone gave him that he constantly thinks about. This episode is presented by Spitfire Audio. Follow us on Twitter @ScoreThePodcast, or send Kenny and Robert your questions for the mailbox at ScoreTheMailbox@epicleff.com. Hosts: Robert Kraft & Kenny Holmes Executive Producer: Matt Schrader Coordinator: Carol Kuswant

Robert and Kenny begin the show discussing the passing of legendary Oscar-winning composer Ennio Morricone, maestro of 400+ films and credited with creating the sound of "Spaghetti Westerns" for films like The Good, the Bad and the Ugly and A Fistful of Dollars. Then, the guys check Score: The Mailbox with a question about the difference between studio musicians and concert musicians. Later, Oscar-nominated composer Patrick Doyle joins the show from Shepperton Studios in England, his home studio for 30 years. Patrick shares stories of many of his great scores including following in the footsteps of John Williams for Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, scoring and playing "Kevin" in Brave, diving into the Marvel Cinematic Universe with Thor and his account of the famous "Got a Cookie For Ya" cue for Rise of the Planet of the Apes. This episode is presented by Spitfire Audio. Follow us on Twitter @ScoreThePodcast, or send Kenny and Robert your questions for the mailbox at ScoreTheMailbox@epicleff.com. Hosts: