Application Security Weekly (audio)

We go deep on LLMs and generative AIs to shine a light on areas that security leaders should focus on. There are technical concerns like prompt injection and access controls, and privacy concerns in training and usage. But there are also areas where security tools are starting to address these concerns as well as areas where security tools are adopting AI themselves. We'll share where we see AI showing promise, as well as where we suspect it's still premature. In the news, a Go Crypto presentation from Real World Crypto, Excel releases support for Python, protecting users from malware like the Luna Grabber and WinRAR RCE, DARPA's V-SPELLS project, and more! Visit https://securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/secweekly Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/secweekly Visit https://securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-253

Two featured interviews from this year's Black Hat. In the news, Discord.io ceases to be, Azure AD breach to get scrutiny from the CSRB, Zoom's AI stumbles show security concerns, model confusion attacks, a look at how far we have -- and haven't -- come with XSS flaws, an approachable article on AI, and more! Visit https://securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/secweekly Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/secweekly Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-252  

A key part of modern appsec is communication. From interpersonal skills for fostering collaborations to presentation skills for delivering a message, the ability to tell a story and engage an audience is a skill that doesn't appear on top ten lists and that doesn't come up in secure coding checklists. Josh shares his path to becoming a presenter on technical topics, including stumbles he's made along the way and how he helps others develop their skills for slides. Resources: - https://www.joshuakgoldberg.com/blog/how-i-apply-to-conferences https://www.joshuakgoldberg.com/blog/how-i-apply-to-conferences-faqs https://www.joshuakgoldberg.com/blog/how-i-apply-to-conferences-faqs/#what-are-your-favorite-conference-talks-youve-seen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPPZ-NUnR-4&t=25743s&ab_channel=JSWORLDConference  Then in the news segment, DARPA unleashes an AI Cyber Challenge to find flaws, CISA asks for input on securing open source software and memory safety, what five years of vuln research shows for

Mature shops should be looking to a security architecture process to help scale their systems and embrace security by design. We talk about what it means to create a security architecture process, why it's not just another security review, and why it requires security to dig into engineering. Segment Resources: - https://www.lacework.com/ciso-boardbook/ciso/merritt-baer Zap gets a jolt of new support, using Clang for security research, LLM attacks learn models, Rust visualizes dependencies, a National Cyber Workforce and Education Strategy, and more! Visit https://securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/secweekly Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/secweekly Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-250  

Identity isn't new, but we do have new ways of presenting and protecting identity with things like payment wallets and verifiable credentials. But we also have identity in surprising places -- like cars. We'll answer some questions like: - Why do we even have identities in cars? - What else is your car connected to? - How should devs be thinking about security in this space? In the news segment, Zenbleed in AMD, Google's TAG sees a drop in zero-days, new security testing handbook from Trail of Bits, Phil Venables' advice on public speaking, car battery monitor that monitors location(!?), more news on TETRA, Visit https://securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes!  Follow us on Mastodon: https://infosec.exchange/@AppSecWeekly  Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/secweekly Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/secweekly Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-249

Appsec teams and developers must both understand the consequences of what they're doing when building APIs. Appsec teams need to push for collaboration and help implement tools that augment the development process. Dev teams need to wrangle complex architectures and work on addressing classes of vulns rather than just playing BugOps with scanner outputs. In the news, there's a (non-critical, but cool) RCE in ssh-agent forwarding, Node's vm2 bids adieu, zero-day from a CTF eventually makes it to a bug bounty program, Bad.Build, and more! This segment is sponsored by GuidePoint.  Visit https://securityweekly.com/guidepoint to learn more about them! Visit https://securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/secweekly Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/secweekly Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-248

While much has been written and argued about the security of election systems - the things that do the actual ballot counting - there's other systems that have to be in place and secured before the vote can occur - voter registration databases, ballot delivery systems, etc. Might it be possible to use modern appsec concepts OWASP SAMM to secure them in a more efficient, targeted, cost-effective manner? Brian Glas joins us to talk about this and his ongoing work around providing students with a modern application security education. It's a busy news week - We explore what happens when people trust plugging cables into their EVs in public, how an APT is leveraging docker and kubernetes to build a botnet, why you should be careful running code from "researchers," and much more Visit https://securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/secweekly  Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/secweekly Visit https://securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest epis

Infosec is still figuring out useful metrics, how to talk about risk, and how to make resilience more relevant. Shannon talks about a new community effort to measure software trust. She also covers threat modeling and adversary management as steps towards determining an org's resiliency and security. Segment Resources: https://community.ravemetrics.com  Melinda will share results from her study last year on developer-focused security, "Walking the Line: Shift Left and GitOps Security" and discuss trends to help security keep up with modern software development. Segment Resources: ESG Complete Survey Results: Walking the Line: GitOps and Shift Left Security: https://research.esg-global.com/reportaction/515201532/Toc  Addressing the confusion around shift-left cloud security | TechTarget: https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/opinion/Addressing-the-confusion-around-shift-left-cloud-security  Melinda Marks’s Most Recent Content: https://www.techtarget.com/contributor/Melinda-Marks  Visit [securityweekly.com

Check out this interview from the ASW Vault, hand picked by main host Mike Shema! This segment was originally published on May 23, 2022. Developers want bug-free code -- it frees up their time and is easier to maintain. They want secure code for the same reasons. We'll talk about how the definition of secure coding varies among developers and appsec teams, why it's important to understand those perspectives, and how training is just one step towards building a security culture.   Visit https://securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/secweekly Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/secweekly Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/vault-asw-3 

Without visibility and continuous monitoring, dangerous threats expose our blind spots and create risk. Invicti, who brought together Acunetix and Netsparker, analyzes common web application vulns across thousands of assets yearly and releases the Invicti AppSec Indicator for a holistic view of vulnerability trends from automated scan results. In this talk, Invicti Director of Product Patrick Vandenberg shares a deep dive into the trends currently impacting AppSec programs and discusses some of the best practices that will help organizations achieve efficiencies in their programs. Segment Resources: - [AppSec Indicator Spring 2023 edition | Invicti](https://www.invicti.com/clp/appsec-indicator/?utm_medium=contentsyn&utm_source=sc_media&utm_campaign=i-syn_CRA-ASW-Jun2023&utm_content=230424-ga_spring-appsec-indicator&utm_term=brand) This segment is sponsored by Invicti. Visit [securityweekly.com/invicti](https://securityweekly.com/invicti) to learn more about them!  In the news, two XSS vulns vi

Security is one of the most evolving and impactful landscapes in the regulatory sphere. Proposed initiatives in the areas of Incident Response, Software and Product Assurance, Coordinated Vulnerability Disclosure (CVD), and IoT or Connected Products Regulations are among the most active and developing areas of security policy around the world. This evolving landscape also serves as an opportunity for innovation and research collaboration. Elazari will walk us through some of the most recent trends in policy proposals shaping the future of security. We will also talk about bug bounties and vulnerability disclosure, what are some of the industry's best practices in this area, how to implement these programs to foster security, collaboration and transparency, and how this connects to the policy momentum and its impact on security researchers. Segment Resources: Project Circuit Breaker: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/newsroom/news/intel-launches-project-circuit-breaker.html Project Circuit Breaker Landi

Eric Olden, CEO and Co-Founder of Strata Identity, discusses the concept of Identity Orchestration. He covers the evolving identity landscape and how it has evolved to keep pace with modern apps, the challenges encountered during an identity modernization project, how Identity Orchestration helps those modernization projects, and best practices for implementing secure identity. Segment Resources: - [Identity Orchestration Use Cases](https://www.strata.io/use-cases/) - [What is Identity Orchestration WhitePaper](https://www.strata.io/resources/whitepapers/what-is-identity-orchestration-and-why-you-need-it-to-succeed-with-multi-cloud/) This segment is sponsored by Strata.  Visit https://securityweekly.com/strata to learn more about them!  This year's Verizon DBIR is out, CVSS is updating its methodology, poor password reset design, SQL injection in MOVEit, a CTF for AWS IAM Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes!  Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes

Walking the show floor at RSA Conference, you couldn't trip without falling into an application security vendor booth ... and API security specialists were especially plentiful. Join Forrester Principal Analyst Sandy Carielli for her thoughts on RSA Conference and a deep dive into the challenges of API security. Segment Resources: - https://www.forrester.com/blogs/insights-from-the-2023-rsa-conference-generative-ai-quantum-and-innovation-sandbox/ OWASP has a draft for the LLM Top 10, simple vulns in a modern SaaS app, ancient vuln in a Wordpress plugin, PyPI moves to secure its package manager accounts, ThinkstScape Quarterly research report, having fun with memory variables, DNS, and logins. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/secweekly Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/secweekly Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-243

Check out this interview from the ASW VAULT, hand picked by main host Mike Shema! This segment was originally published on March 14, 2022. Cybersecurity is a large and often complex domain, traditionally focused on the infrastructure and general information security, with little or no attention to Application Security. Security providers usually tack-on AppSec services to their existing menu of offering without understanding the domain, and their team of professionals have little or no experience with software development or inner workings of modern application architectures. As the world turns Digital at a rapid pace accelerated by the recent pandemic, applications become common place in our lives, providing attackers more opportunities to exploit these poorly protected applications. As such, it is important to know what is actually required to build and run software securely, and how to do application security right. Segment Resources: https://forwardsecurity.com/2022/03/07/application-security-for-busy-tec

The OWASP Top 10 dates back to 2003, when appsec was just settling on terms like cross-site scripting and SQL injection. It's a list that everyone knows about and everyone talks about. But is it still the right model for modern appsec awareness? What if we put that attention and effort elsewhere? Maybe we could have secure defaults instead. Or linters and build tools that point out these flaws. We'll talk about top 10 lists, what we like about them, what we don't like, and what we'd like to see replace them. We'll also test our hosts' knowledge of just how many top 10 lists are out there.   Segment resources: [OWASP Top 10:2021](https://owasp.org/Top10/)  [OWASP API Security Project](https://owasp.org/www-project-api-security/) [OWASP Top 10 Mobile Risks](https://github.com/OWASP/www-project-mobile-top-10/blob/master/2016-risks/index.md) [OWASP Top 10 CI/CD Security Risks](https://owasp.org/www-project-top-10-ci-cd-security-risks/) and [ASW #220](https://www.scmagazine.com/podcast-episode/asw-220-daniel-kriv

What happens to an app's security after six months? What about a year or two years? A Secure SDLC needs to maintain security throughout an app's lifetime, but too often the rate of new flaws can outpace the rate of new code within an app. Appsec teams need strategies and processes to keep software secure for as long as possible. Segment Resources: https://www.veracode.com/state-of-software-security-report   Learn how hackers are exploiting the trust that mobile app owners place in their customers. Hackers are increasingly modifying app code, posing as trusted customers, and infiltrating IT infrastructure. This segment is sponsored by Verimatrix. Visit https://securityweekly.com/verimatrixrsac to learn more about them!   Unlike vulnerabilities, which can and do often exist for months or years in application code without being exploited, a malicious package represents an immediate threat to an organization, intentionally designed to do harm. In the war for cybersecurity, attackers are innovating faster than com

What does software resilience mean? Why is status quo application security unfit for the modern era of software? How can we move from security theater to security chaos engineering? This segment answers these questions and more. Segment Resources: Book -- https://securitychaoseng.com Blog -- https://kellyshortridge.com/blog/posts/   In the ever-evolving world of cybersecurity, attackers are constantly finding new ways to infiltrate your software supply chains. But with GitGuardian's Honeytoken, you can stay ahead of the game. Deploy honeytokens at scale, monitor for unauthorized use, and detect intrusions before they can wreak havoc on your system. With Honeytoken, you'll have the insight you need to protect your confidential data and know where, who, and how attackers are trying to access it. This segment is sponsored by GitGuardian. Visit https://securityweekly.com/gitguardianrsac to learn more about them!   In light of the constant change in the threat landscape, how does an organization keep up with the a

Application security is messy and is getting messier. Modern application security teams are struggling to identify what's more important to fix. Cloud security and application security is getting squeezed all together. Modern vulnerability maturity needs a new approach and guidance. Vulnerability management framework and mature defect management is often overlooked as organizations tend to identify issues and stop there. The devil is usually in the details and time gets burned down in identifying who needs to solve what where. Vulnerability Management Maturity Framework has been created to address that. Segment Resources: Framework: https://phoenix.security/vulnerability-management-framework/ Books on metrics: https://phoenix.security/whitepapers-resources/data-driven-application-security-vulnerability-management-are-sla-slo-dead/ Vulnerability aggregation and prioritization https://phoenix.security/whitepapers-resources/whitepaper-vulnerability-management-in-application-cloud-security/ Shift left: https://

Jeff Moss shares some of history of DEF CON, from CFPs to Codes of Conduct, and what makes it a hacker conference. We also discuss the role of hackers and researchers in representing users within policy discussions.   Segment links https://defcon.org  https://forum.defcon.org https://media.defcon.org https://defcon.social/about   Microsoft turns to a weather-based taxonomy, k8s shares a security audit, a GhostToken that can't be exorcised from Google accounts, BrokenSesame RCE, typos and security, generative AI and security that's more than prompt injection   Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/secweekly Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/secweekly   Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw238 

We talk with Ben about the rewards, hazards, and fun of bug bounty programs. Then we find out different ways to build successful and welcoming communities. A new deps.dev API for supply chain enthusiasts, hacking and modding agricultural devices, guidance from CISA on secure by design (and by default!), Glaze brings adversarial art to AI training, key transparency for WhatsApp, a new appsec myth(?), Android hacking tool list, and a Chrome extension to find web debugging behavior.   Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/secweekly Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/secweekly   Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw237