Steppin' Out Of Babylon: Radio Interviews

Ted Nace is the author of Gangs of America: The Rise of Corporate Power and the Disabling of Democracy. Nace is the founder of Peachpit Press, the world's leading publisher of books on computer graphics and desktop publishing. Prior to that he worked as a freelance writer and served as staff director of the Dakota Resource Council, helping rural communities deal with the impact of strip mines and power plants. In this interview Nace speaks about how the corporation has become the core institution of the modern world. He describes where it came from, how it got more rights than a person has, where it is going and what we can do to stop it from greater and greater control of our lives and well being.

Jeff Patterson works as staff of the anti-war, peace organization, "Not in Our Name". He was a war resistor in 1990. Although he had been in the Marines for 4 years and was a Corporal he refused to go fight in the war against Iraq even though he only had a few remaining weeks before he was due to be discharged from the Marines. He spent some time in prison and has since been working for peace. Among the many ways in which he does this is that he often speaks to high school students encouraging them to not join the military and advising them about conscientious objection.