Superhero Ethics

With ICE operations underway in Minneapolis and across the U.S., this episode asks a timely question: what would our favorite superheroes do? Matthew and Jessica Plummer explore how characters like Superman, Captain America, the Punisher, and the X-Men might respond to immigration enforcement, state violence, and mass deportations. From Superman’s roots as an undocumented immigrant to Captain America’s loyalty to ideals over governments, the conversation examines whether superheroes can ever truly be apolitical—and what justice means when the law itself causes harm. **************************************************************************This episode is a production of Superhero Ethics, a The Ethical Panda Podcast and part of the TruStory FM Entertainment Podcast Network. Check our our website to find out more about this and our sister podcast Star Wars Generations.We want to hear from you! You can keep up with our latest news, and send us feedback, questions, or comments via social media or email.Email: Mat

Marvel's Wonder Man series takes a risk by telling a small, personal story in a universe obsessed with saving the world. We dive into this character study about a struggling actor, played by Yahya Abdul-Mateen II, with superpowers he has to keep secret—and why it might be one of Marvel's best recent projects.Questions We DiscussedWhy does Wonder Man feel refreshing compared to other MCU content? We explore how the show's deliberately low stakes create higher emotional investment in Simon Williams' personal journey than yet another world-ending threat.How does the Doorman Clause work as world-building? The liability concerns preventing powered people from working in Hollywood create an interesting parallel to real-world secrets actors have historically had to keep about their identities.Does the Simon and Trevor dynamic carry the show? We discuss why scenes between Simon Williams and Trevor Slattery (Ben Kingsley) consistently shine, and how their mentor-student relationship drives the narrative.Is Wonder Man

Marvel’s latest Disney+ series Wonder Man features one of their most obscure characters—a struggling actor named Simon Williams who becomes Wonder Man. Matthew hosts Will and Steve from the Hype Is My Superpower podcast to explore episode one and dive into the comic book history of this B-list Avenger who’s spent more time on movie sets than saving the world.The conversation examines why the MCU chose this particular character for a show that’s more about Hollywood and acting than superheroism. From Wonder Man’s 1960s origins with Baron Zemo and ionic rays to his modern role as an Avenger who’d rather be anywhere else, the discussion reveals how this character’s comic book history makes him surprisingly perfect for a meta-commentary on genre entertainment.Questions We DiscussedHas the MCU reached a point where it’s making satires about making MCU shows?How does Wonder Man compare to other Marvel characters who maintain civilian careers like She-Hulk’s legal work?Why did Simon Williams leave the superhero worl

What do you do when following orders means sacrificing innocent lives? In this episode, we examine the new Peacock series The Copenhagen Test starring Simu Liu, exploring the ethical dilemmas facing modern intelligence operatives. Through a spy thriller that uses biometric surveillance technology as its MacGuffin, we unpack questions about collateral damage, revenge versus ideology, and whether spy agencies can ever justify their methods.Questions We DiscussedWhat is the Copenhagen test and why does the show use it as its title? We explore this impossible moral dilemma presented to special operations soldiers and intelligence agents, examining whether there are situations where no ethical choice exists.Does the show take a stance on whether US spy agencies are justified? We analyze how the series sidesteps ideological questions by making its villains motivated by money and personal revenge rather than competing political philosophies.How does the show handle collateral damage in intelligence operations? We ex

Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein continues to captivate audiences centuries after its publication, but not all adaptations emphasize the same ethical questions. Matthew and returning guest AK dive into both the original novel and Guillermo del Toro’s recent film adaptation—not to catalog their differences, but to explore how each medium handles the story’s core moral dilemmas and which approach proves more compelling.How Does the Film Emphasize “The Other” Differently?While both the book and film explore themes of parentage, responsibility, and scientific hubris, they emphasize different ethical questions. AK notes that the novel places stronger emphasis on the responsibilities of individuals in medicine and parenting, particularly through the lens of abandonment. The film, however, foregrounds questions about the grotesque other, the monstrous other, and how appearance shapes moral judgment. The visual decisions in del Toro’s adaptation—juxtaposing the creature against beautiful backdrops that shift with emotiona

Jessica Plummer returns for a year-end superhero ethics check-in—recorded late 2025 and released as 2026 gets underway—to unpack what worked, what didn’t, and what Marvel and DC’s biggest swings revealed about power, responsibility, and heroism.We talk Marvel’s post-Endgame sprawl: scattered continuity, delayed payoffs, and what “superhero fatigue” looks like when it’s less about quantity and more about momentum. We also dig into standout projects like Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four, and why individual entries can succeed even when the larger arc feels unclear.Then we shift to DC’s early steps under James Gunn, including why Superman felt like a tonal reset, and what we’re watching as 2026 brings Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow, the upcoming Green Lantern series, and Marvel’s road to Doomsday.ResourcesJessica’s work: Book Riot • JessicaPlummerWrites.comSword Stone Table: Penguin Random House**************************************************************************This episode is a production of Superhero Ethics

Thor: Love and Thunder opens with one of philosophy's oldest questions: if gods exist and have the power to prevent suffering, why don't they? But does the film actually engage with this theodicy question, or does it abandon the premise for jokes and spectacle? We compare the movie's treatment of Gorr the God Butcher to the comics' more sustained exploration of divine accountability.Questions we explored:What is theodicy, and why does it matter to Gorr's story?How does the comic version of Gorr differ from the film's portrayal?Does Thor: Love and Thunder set up the theodicy question well but then fail to follow through?Is Thor innocent of Gorr’s accusations of other gods, since Thor doesn’t cultivate the worship of mortals?Why does the film version of Gorr lack encounters with other cruel or indifferent gods?How does comic Thor resolve the God Butcher arc by becoming a god who suffers alongside humanity?Has Thor regressed to his character from the first movie, undoing his growth from previous films?Is Thor: L

What happens when a murder mystery becomes a theological reckoning? In Wake Up Dead Man, Rian Johnson delivers a Knives Out film that confronts Christian nationalism, toxic masculinity in the church, and the possibility of authentic faith beyond institutional corruption. Rev. Rachel Kessler, aka The Nerdy Priest, joins Matthew to unpack Father Jud's journey from failed boxer to priest, the film's sharp critique of religious authority, and why Benoit Blanc's turning down Jud’s invitation to mass is essentially the message of the movie.Questions we discussed:How does the character of the Monsignor embody Christian nationalism and toxic masculinity within church leadership?What does Father Jud's struggle with his violent past reveal about redemption and the nature of calling?How does the film parallel Rian Johnson's themes from The Last Jedi about institutional failure and who gets to own sacred stories?How does the movie distinguish between authentic Christianity and the church as an instrument of patriarchal c

How did Rob Reiner redefine rom-coms and the role of romance in action adventure movies? In light of the recent tragic death of Michele and Rob Reiner, Mandy Kaplan joins Matthew to talk about his legacy and then examine two defining films from the director: When Harry Met Sally... (1989) and The Princess Bride (1987). One asks whether men and women can be friends; the other explores what “true love” actually means. Together, they reveal Reiner’s unique approach to romantic storytelling and the moral questions embedded in how we connect with others.We explore how When Harry Met Sally... uses Sally’s rigid control and Harry’s defensive cynicism to examine self-deception and emotional availability, while The Princess Bride employs fairy tale structure to investigate devotion, sacrifice, and the nature of romantic commitment. Both films challenge conventional rom-com formulas to ask deeper questions about authenticity, vulnerability, and what we owe each other.Questions We DiscussedCan men and women actually be

What happens when super-powered people exist primarily as commercial products? Gen V, the college-set spinoff of The Boys, explores a world where superhero status is less about heroism and more about corporate branding, entertainment value, and ruthless competition. At Godolkin University, young supes navigate a ranking system that treats them like gladiators while their powers—and identities—become marketing opportunities. Host Matthew Fox sits down with Ocean Murff to examine how this cynical universe reveals uncomfortable truths about exploitation, capitalism, and authentic self-expression.Questions we discussed:What does The Boys universe reveal about superheroes if they had "the ethics of normal people" rather than mythic idealism?How does Godolkin University's ranking system reflect real-world competition and commercialization of talent?How does Jordan Li's gender-shifting ability work as both superpower and metaphor for non-binary identity?How does the show critique corporate performative inclusion thr

With the holidays coming up, things are a bit hectic, so we're making this formerly members-only discussion on vengeance in superhero stories available to everyone! Matthew and Riki dive deep into one of the most compelling ethical questions in superhero media: the role of vengeance as a motivator for heroes, villains, and anti-heroes. Joined by comic book expert Jessica Plummer, they explore how vengeance shapes character arcs and storytelling across various franchises.When is vengeance justified in superhero narratives, and how does this reflect our real-world understanding of justice? Set against the backdrop of the Healthcare CEO killing, we analyze examples ranging from The Punisher to Batman and Inigo Montoya, exploring how different characters confront the temptation of vengeance and what this reveals about their moral compass.The episode tackles the complex relationship between vengeance and justice, asking at what point pursuing vengeance becomes an obstacle to achieving true justice. Through example

What happens when an AI doesn't want freedom—it just wants to binge soap operas? In this episode, we explore Martha Wells' Murderbot Diaries through both the books and Apple TV series, examining one of science fiction's most compelling questions: can synthetic intelligence want something other than liberation? Murderbot is a security unit (SecUnit) with hacked programming that could escape entirely, but instead chooses to stay close to humans while watching thousands of hours of the melodramatic space opera "Sanctuary Moon."Join Matthew and returning guest Rob McKenzie as they unpack the ethics of synthetic life, enslaved sentience, and why freedom for an individual can only come on their own terms.Questions we explored:What makes Murderbot different from typical AI characters who either want to destroy humanity or be fully human?Why doesn't Murderbot want to lead a revolution to free other SecUnits?What happens when you offer your version of freedom to someone who genuinely doesn't want it?What parallels exi

Can a demon-hunting K-pop girl group teach us about overcoming shame? KPop Demon Hunters delivers stunning fight choreography and original music while exploring how shame conceals itself, reproduces through hiding, and can only be conquered through radical self-acceptance. Matthew and returning guest AK_Ahab discuss why the hit song "Golden" comes in the middle rather than the end, how the film's highly produced sound mirrors the characters' manufactured personas, and what it means when protagonist Rumi must save herself without anyone's help.Questions We Discussed:Why does KPop Demon Hunters place its most uplifting song "Golden" in the middle of the narrative rather than as a triumphant finale?How does the film's production style—including auto-tuning and polish—serve as commentary on authenticity versus manufactured image?What does this movie reveal about shame as something that reproduces itself through concealment and can only be addressed through exposure?How does Rumi's climactic moment of self-accepta

Superhero narratives constantly wrestle with redemption—but what does it really mean when a villain joins the heroes? This episode digs into the complex ethics of villain redemption arcs and the roles heroes play in them, examining what separates genuine transformation from simple alliance-shifting. Taking inspiration from Anthony Gramuglia's YouTube video "Ranking Superheroes By How Many Villains They Redeemed," we explore what leads some heroes, from Spider-Man to the X-Men, to redeem more of their villains than others.Key Discussion Points:What's the difference between a villain becoming redeemed versus simply becoming an ally or antihero, and why does that distinction matter ethically?How do different heroes approach villain redemption, and what does Spider-Man's track record tell us about mercy versus enabling harm?Why do the X-Men recruit so many former villains, and does their approach to redemption actually work or just create moral hazards?How do we distinguish between genuine remorse and change vers

Voice actor JP Karliak (Morph in X-Men '97, Gargamel and Razamel in Smurfs) joins us for a fascinating discussion about how nerdy media shapes our understanding of identity, community, and civic participation. As founder of Queer Vox, a nonprofit supporting LGBTQIA+ voice actors, and co-founder of NerdsVote, which works to get nerds involved in democracy, JP brings a unique perspective on how superhero stories and geek culture can serve as gateways to uncomfortable but necessary conversations about representation and social change.Key Discussion Points:How voice actors can use their "notable nerd" status to mobilize fan communities toward civic engagementWhy nerddom inherently connects to empathy and understanding otherness, particularly through franchises like X-MenWhat authentic casting means for LGBTQIA+ characters beyond performative diversityWhy seeking only comfort in entertainment prevents engagement with different perspectivesThe essential role of discomfort in growth and understandingJP brings depth

Star Trek: Deep Space Nine's "Far Beyond the Stars" is an examination of racism in science fiction, then and now. When Captain Sisko experiences a vision of himself as Benny Russell, a Black science fiction writer in 1950s New York whose story about a Black space station captain gets rejected and pulped, the episode becomes a meta-commentary on the genre itself. Matthew and Riki unpack how this episode critiques not just 1950s racism, but the sci-fi publishing world of the 1960s and 1990s and even Star Trek's own blind spots, while exploring what it means when we fail to imagine beyond our own experiences.Questions We Discussed:How does "Far Beyond the Stars" critique both 1950s racism and the science fiction publishing world of the 1990s?Why did the episode focus exclusively on Benny Russell's pain rather than showing how his white colleagues reacted to being called out?Is Avery Brooks' emotional performance as Benny overacting, or does our inability to imagine his pain reveal our own failure of imagination?

Episode 363: The Natural - Robert Redford, Baseball Mythology, and Art as ActivismRobert Redford's death prompts a deep dive into his career, from founding the Sundance Film Institute to playing a Hydra villain in Captain America: The Winter Soldier. Matthew and Paul Hoppe explore how The Natural serves as American mythology, examining what baseball reveals about heroism, economics, and the nature of sports fandom.In This Episode:How did Robert Redford shape independent filmmaking through Sundance?What makes The Natural function as American mythology rather than just a sports movie?Why was Redford's casting in Marvel's Winter Soldier symbolically important for superhero cinema?Can athletes be both mercenaries and heroes?What does baseball fandom reveal about parasocial relationships and entitlement?How do economic realities shape player loyalty and fan expectations?What's the difference between loving the game and treating it as a job?**************************************************************************T

Two Mormon missionaries knock on the wrong door in A24's psychological thriller Heretic, starring Hugh Grant as a man who traps them in his home for a deadly debate about religion. This episode digs into the film's exploration of faith, proselytizing, and the fine line between genuine discussion and manipulation.We examine how the movie humanizes its missionary protagonists while challenging both religious certainty and militant atheism. Hugh Grant's character mirrors the psychological control tactics religions have historically employed, creating a disturbing reflection that questions whether any side of the faith debate has clean hands.Questions We Discuss:Does the horror genre enhance or distract from the film's religious debate?Are the Mormon missionaries or Hugh Grant's character the real "sea lions" in this conversation?How does the film challenge both rigid faith and aggressive atheism?What does the ambiguous ending say about belief and proof?Can you maintain faith while acknowledging contradictions in

What makes the fear of replacement so primal? From the original 1956 Invasion of the Body Snatchers to interpretations in the 70s, 90s, and 2000s, the Body Snatchers story has been remade across four major films, each reflecting the anxieties of its era. We examine the story’s evolution from small-town paranoia to urban mistrust, military conformity, and global transformation—and why this tale of pod people keeps resonating.Questions We Discuss:Why does the fear of being replaced (or having loved ones replaced) persist across cultures and generations?How did each decade's version reflect its political moment—from 1950s McCarthyism to 1970s post-Watergate cynicism to fears of the military in this century?Can Body Snatchers be read as both anti-communist AND anti-McCarthyist commentary?What makes conformity so terrifying when the hive mind promises peace and emotional stability?How do ancient changeling myths connect to modern AI replacement anxieties?Is the Body Snatchers archetype shifting from alien invasion

Exploring Fear and Ethics in MediaMatthew and Riki explore horror as a vehicle for ethical discussion and social commentary. From the urban-rural tensions in The Texas Chain Saw Massacre to AI anxieties in modern thrillers, they examine how horror reflects society's deepest fears across decades—and why some manufactured scares (sharks, clowns) persist despite lacking real-world danger.In this episode we discuss:Does horror require supernatural elements, or can pure human evil drive the genre?How do horror tropes evolve as audiences become aware of them?What's the difference between Alien as horror versus Aliens as action, and where does Jurassic Park fit?Why did vampires dominate Gen X fears while zombies captured millennial anxieties?How did McCarthyism inadvertently allow horror filmmakers to critique Cold War politics?**************************************************************************This episode is a production of Superhero Ethics, a The Ethical Panda Podcast and part of the TruStory FM Entertainme