Created Equal



a music-rich podcast examining modern issues of inequality through the lens of history, fusing the insights of award-winning journalists and experts with creative, illustrative storytelling.


  • Beverly Daniel Tatum, "Why Are All The Black Kids Sitting Together In The Cafeteria?

    25/03/2021 Duración: 17min

    Psychologist and author of “Why Are All The Black Kids Sitting Together In The Cafeteria?” Dr. Beverly Daniel Tatum discusses her groundbreaking 1997 book with Henderson in the context of this moment of cultural and racial reckoning. They talk about how young people internalize race, systemic racism through suburban communities and the importance of cross racial friendships.

  • Latino USA's Maria Hinojosa On Her Memoir, "Once I Was You"

    10/03/2021 Duración: 18min

    Award-winning journalist Maria Hinojosa talks about immigrating to America, growing up in Chicago, and the process of writing about past trauma.

  • Eddie Glaude, “Begin Again: James Baldwin’s America and Its Urgent Lessons for Our Own"

    24/02/2021 Duración: 22min

    Eddie S. Glaude, Jr. is chair of the Department of African American Studies at Princeton University and the author of the new book “Begin Again: James Baldwin’s America and Its Urgent Lessons for Our Own.” He and Stephen Henderson discuss “the efficiency of American exceptionalism as an ideology.”

  • S3 Ep 10: Poet Caroline Williams Randall

    10/02/2021 Duración: 17min

    Award-winning poet and activist Caroline Randall Williams talks with Stephen Henderson about her work and what gives her hope during this dark time in American history.

  • S3 Ep 9: Jerald Walker, author of How To Make A Slave

    27/01/2021 Duración: 32min

    Writing Professor and Author Jerald Walker discusses his poignant collection of essays called “How To Make A Slave," which is a finalist for a National Book Award. In the book, Walker reflects on growing up on Chicago's Southside, what it means to depict Black American life with authenticity and what he hopes to teach his children about the complex joy of the African-American experience.

  • S3 EP 8: JM Holmes, How Are You Going to Save Yourself

    06/01/2021 Duración: 13min

    JM Holmes, author of the collection of short stories How Are You Going to Save Yourself, talks with Stephen Henderson about the roles of race and gender in his writing.

  • S3 EP 7: Eric Deggans, Race-Baiter: How the Media Wields Dangerous Words to Divide a Nation

    30/12/2020 Duración: 18min

    NPR’s first full-time TV critic, Eric Deggans, joins Stephen Henderson to discuss how prejudice, racism and sexism fuels some elements of modern media.

  • S3 EP 6: Harriet Washington, A Terrible Thing to Waste

    30/12/2020 Duración: 21min

    Stephen Henderson and Harriet Washington, winner of the 2007 National Book Critics Circle Award for Nonfiction discuss environmental racism and her book, A Terrible Thing to Waste.

  • S3 Ep 5: Jim Wallis, author of America’s Original Sin

    16/12/2020 Duración: 10min

    Sojourners founder Jim Wallis, author of America’s Original Sin: Racism, White Privilege, and the Bridge to a New America discusses what it means to be a white ally in 2020 with Stephen Henderson.

  • S3 Ep 4: Sarah Broom, The Yellow House

    09/12/2020 Duración: 18min

    Stephen Henderson talks with Sarah M. Broom, author of The Yellow House, and discusses the roles of ritual and home for African Americans as told in her New York Times best-selling book which won the 2019 National Book Award for Nonfiction.

  • S3 EP 3: Carol Anderson, White Rage: The Unspoken Truth of Our Racial Divide

    02/12/2020 Duración: 30min

    Stephen Henderson speaks with Dr. Carol Anderson, author of White Rage: The Unspoken Truth of Our Racial Divide, a New York Times Bestseller that was chosen as a New York Times Editor's Pick for July 2016.

  • S3 Ep 2: Colson Whitehead, The Nickel Boys

    25/11/2020 Duración: 25min

    Two-time Pulitzer Prize-winning novelist Colson Whitehead talks with Stephen Henderson about his novel The Nickel Boys and the influence of Ralph Ellison’s Invisible Man on his explorations of race in America.

  • S3 Ep 1: Ibram X. Kendi, How to Be An Antiracist

    25/11/2020 Duración: 15min

    Pulitzer Prize winning commentator Stephen Henderson’s conversation with 2016 National Book Award-winner Ibram X. Kendi about his book How to Be An Antiracist, a New York Times #1 Best Seller in 2020.

  • Created Equal Season 3 Preview with Stephen Henderson

    19/11/2020 Duración: 03min

    Hosted by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Stephen Henderson, Season 3 of the podcast Created Equal explores “Writers on Race, from Ralph Ellison to Colson Whitehead,” and features some of the most important voices in literature as well as the national conversation on racial inequities. Recorded throughout the pandemic and civil unrest of 2020. Each episode consists of a conversation between Henderson and one writer exploring the role of their work in the conversation about race in America.

  • S2E15: “What the Eyes Don’t See” author Dr. Mona Hanna-Attisha and State Senator Jim Ananich of Flint

    12/12/2019 Duración: 57min

    Stephen Henderson is joined by Dr. Mona Hanna-Attisha and State Senate Minority Leader Jim Ananich of Flint (p. 194) at a live event at the Detroit Public Library. They share their personal stories during the Flint Water Crisis and discuss the challenges and obstacles that still exist in Flint.

  • S2E14: Dr. Janet Stout

    12/12/2019 Duración: 16min

    Dr. Stout is a Legionella expert and director of the Special Pathogens Laboratory in Pittsburgh. She helped directly tie the deadly outbreak of Legionnaires Disease in Flint to the switch to Flint River Water in the city’s drinking water system. Stout was hired by McLaren to assist the hospital in defending itself against a $100-million lawsuit and against state claims that its failings caused what the state calls the "largest healthcare-associated Legionnaires' outbreak known" in the United States.

  • S2E13: Ron Fonger

    03/12/2019 Duración: 19min

    Created Equal, Season 2: Ron Fonger is a longtime reporter with MLive and The Flint Journal. He’s been writing about Flint since the city started using the Flint River as the city’s water source in April 2014. He’s written more than 500 articles regarding The Flint Water Crisis.

  • S2E12: Dimple Chaudhary and Eric Schwartz

    03/12/2019 Duración: 13min

    Created Equal, Season 2: Dimple Chaudhary and Eric Schwartz Dimple Chaudhary is senior attorney and managing litigator at the National Resources Defense Council. She is the lead counsel in cases against both Flint and Pittsburgh for their lead water crisis. Eric Schwartz, Assistant Professor of Marketing at The Ross School of Business at the University of Michigan He is one of the researchers that developed an algorithm to determine what neighborhoods most likely have lead pipes in Flint.

  • S2E11 Lindsey Smith p. 273

    25/11/2019 Duración: 31min

    Lindsey Smith is Michigan Radio’s Investigative Reporter. Her 2015 documentary about the Flint water crisis, Not Safe to Drink, won the station a national Edward R. Murrow Award, an Alfred I. duPont - Columbia University Award, and a Third Coast/Richard H. Driehaus Award.

  • S2E10 Melissa Mays

    25/11/2019 Duración: 19min

    Melissa Mays is a mother-of-three-turned-activist after her and her sons became greatly impacted by the lead in Flint’s water and now takes 18 separate prescriptions to stay alive. She is the founder of Water You Fighting For and filed one of the first lawsuits to force Michigan to replace lead-infected water lines in the City of Flint.

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